[discuss] Report from the BR meeting local organizing group - Dec 2013

Mon Dec 30 15:42:51 UTC 2013

On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 9:00 AM, Roland Perry <
roland at internetpolicyagency.com> wrote:

> In message <CD2C03E5-67BB-4654-BAD2-22C551F661EC at gmail.com>, at 10:24:49
> on Wed, 25 Dec 2013, Jorge Amodio <jmamodio at gmail.com> writes
>
>  IPv4 -> IPv6 s not a problem to solve, it's just a job to do.
>>>>
>>>
>>> With my SME hat on it's a problem because it means replacing just about
>>> all my infrastructure (hardware and software), several of which are
>>> legacy and will never be updated by their suppliers.
>>>
>>
>> That is *your* problem, not an Internet problem to be solved at the IG
>> layer.
>>
>
> If IPv6 had been devised as backwards compatible, then my problems (and
> those of millions of other business users) would be much less. I believe
> that to be an IG issue, under Tunis Agenda #59 (and others).

Being one of "the most experienced and prolific contributors to the Internet "
you should already know how to do that.

How you run your business is out of the scope of the IG and if you expect a
>> solution to *your* problem from that front you will certainly go
>> broke pretty fast.
>>
>
> It's not the running on *my* business which causes the problem, but the
> running of the businesses that provide my connectivity and the running of
> the governance processes in which ISP businesses are by far the most
> influential stakeholder. "Users", as a stakeholder, are virtually
> invisible, but they are the ones who ultimately pay the bills.

ISPs (not all for sure) know what has to be done and how, sooner or later
if they don't do it end users will move on and switch to companies that
provide the services they want. It is really an evolution and I don't
remember anybody banging on the doors of IG when DEC, Netscape, Altavista,
AOL, etc, etc, went dark.

But I've to agree with you, no doubt end users are completely
misrepresented in the IG world.

Regards
Jorge
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