[discuss] Transparency and Accountability vis-à-vis ICANN and the IANA functions

Fri Apr 4 05:31:12 UTC 2014

On Friday 04 April 2014 08:34 AM, Alejandro Pisanty wrote:
> Michael,
>
> one last try...
>
> What issues away, well very far away from ICANN do you think should be 
> addressed?

Alejandro, I did list out both the issues, beyond ICANN, and how they 
could be addressed. You have repeated sought this info, and I look 
forward to your engagement with it.. parminder
>
> How has Community Informatics set an example that others should follow?
>
> How and where is that sequestered by the evil forces?


>
> What is the exciting discussion forum where the respective debate is 
> taking place?
>
> Alejandro Pisanty
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 8:33 PM, michael gurstein <gurstein at gmail.com 
> <mailto:gurstein at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     Thanks for you clarity on this John...
>
>     Inline...
>
>     *From:*John Curran [mailto:jcurran at istaff.org
>     <mailto:jcurran at istaff.org>]
>     *Sent:* Thursday, April 03, 2014 4:24 PM
>     *To:* michael gurstein
>     *Cc:* 1Net List
>     *Subject:* Re: [discuss] Transparency and Accountability vis-à-vis
>     ICANN and the IANA functions
>
>     On Apr 3, 2014, at 6:43 PM, michael gurstein <gurstein at gmail.com
>     <mailto:gurstein at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>
>
>     John,
>
>     You probably overlooked this paragraph
>
>     /There is a third possible goal (which I would anticipate many in
>     this discussion will suggest) which is "enabling the most
>     effective (and/or efficient) operation of the Internet".  However,
>     on close examination I think it is clear that this is not (and
>     cannot) be a discrete goal in itself, rather it simply awaits the
>     raising of the same question... _"enabling the most effective
>     operation of the Internet" for what_... --the public interest or
>     the range of private interests?/
>
>     Michael -
>
>        I saw the paragraph, and answered it:  the technical
>     coordination of Internet identifier
>
>        predominantly serves the providers of the infrastructure of the
>     Internet itself, i.e. private
>
>        interests.
>
>     */[MG>] yes.../*
>
>        That does not mean that the Internet itself cannot be focused
>     on serving public interests,
>
>        or have a set of principles oriented towards that purpose, but
>     simply that a set of principles
>
>        for that purpose are above the infrastructure,... i.e. a  set
>     of principles for Internet _governance_,
>
>        whereas ICANN and the related registries are predominantly
>     about technical administration,
>
>        and need a set of principles focused on open and transparent
>     administration of the registries.
>
>     */[MG>] So, in an Internet ecology where ICANN is a central player
>     and where they have  very considerable funds (and an active
>     interest) to animate and influence that ecology the central
>     "principle" is that of supporting and enabling "private interests". /*
>
>     *//*
>
>     */That being the case perhaps you could tell us, given the current
>     configuration of activities and the evidently single minded push
>     from the USG and the leadership of ICANN to be the core framework
>     for Internet Governance, where exactly will the initiatives come
>     from to ensure that "the Internet... can.. be focused on public
>     interests" or develop a "set of principles oriented towards that
>     purpose"... especially since ICANN has worked so assiduously to
>     ensure that Civil Society (and the technical community) is aligned
>     with its activities and directions (and values?)./*
>
>     *//*
>
>     */I'm wondering if an "Internet for the private good" (i.e. for
>     the benefit of the Comcasts of the world and their owners---the
>     1%)  is consistent with the desires and expectations of the rest
>     of the world outside of the rarified atmosphere of ICANN's 5 star
>     hotels and the USG and their allies and that in fact most (and
>     including their countries) would very much opt for an Internet for
>     the Common Good... /*
>
>     *//*
>
>     */M /*
>
>     FYI,
>
>     /John
>
>     Disclaimer: My view alone.
>
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