[discuss] we need to fix what may be broken

Wed Apr 23 10:20:27 UTC 2014

All,

I’m keeping this quote because its gonna be useful someday.

"Note that necessity is an excellent forcing function, and if there is 
actual need for policies supporting increased secondary markets for IPv4, 
then I'm fairly certain that they will emerge as IP address community 
perceives of the need.  This ability to let the community set policy, 
via uneven stumbling at times, it precisely the principle that many of 
us see as fundamental to successful global coordination of Internet 
identifiers (and the antithesis of the "visionary leadership" model 
that so often fails in mandatory top-down approaches)”

Ben

On Apr 23, 2014, at 11:03 AM, John Curran <jcurran at istaff.org> wrote:

> On Apr 18, 2014, at 3:53 PM, Barry Shein <bzs at world.std.com> wrote:
>> But RIRs have IPv4 addresses. Here, for example, is ARIN's current
>> IPv4 inventory as of today, 2014-04-18.
>> 
>> https://www.arin.net/resources/request/ipv4_countdown.html
>> 
> 
>> They even still have a /9 block which is about 12M addresses, etc.
>> 
>> Their simple meter on that page says 1.25 /8s total space, so about
>> 30M addresses.
> 
> As of today, 1.0 /8 equivalents, i.e. ARIN has reached final phase
> of its IPv4 regional free pool runout plan.
> 
>> I could review that for the other 4 RIRs but we'd all get bored, fast,
>> ...
> 
> Actually, it's quite exciting.  However, rather than worrying about 
> the state of the global Internet, perhaps you can act locally?
> 
>> The World              | bzs at TheWorld.com           | http://www.TheWorld.com
> 
> i.e. perhaps your efforts would be better investing in making 
> "TheWorld.com" IPv6 reachable?
> 
>   [Diamond:~] jcurran% host TheWorld.com
>   TheWorld.com has address 192.74.137.5
>   [Diamond:~] jcurran% host world.std.com
>   world.std.com has address 192.74.137.5
> 
> As service providers globally move to using IPv6, it is beneficial if
> existing content (such as http://world.std.com) is reachable via both
> IPv4 _and_ IPv6 - in this manner, providers (e.g. T-Mobile) who deploy
> IPv6 devices do not have to add capacity to their IPv4 translation 
> gateways to reach out-of-date websites.  
> 
> Thanks!
> /John
> 
> Disclaimer: My views alone.
> 
> 
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