[discuss] NetMundial Initiative

Thu Aug 14 14:09:34 UTC 2014

This seems a fake multistakeholder process. Dozens of people invited to 
bring an aura of "legitimacy" but command and control rests with a few 
big shots. The WEF is a very adequate venue for this kind of practice...

--c.a.

On 08/13/2014 11:50 PM, Stephanie Perrin wrote:
> Is it not important to know who made the selection of people?
> Is that explained anywhere?  Very odd process....for a multi-stakeholder
> effort.
> Stephanie
> On 2014-08-13, 21:30, michael gurstein wrote:
>>
>> The level of participation seems a bit heavy duty for organizing a few
>> training programs, authorizing some digital literacy sessions and
>> ordering up a few policy discussion groups but I guess the CEO of
>> Google and the rest don't have all that much to do with their time...
>>
>> M
>>
>> *From:*Ian Peter [mailto:ian.peter at ianpeter.com]
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 13, 2014 6:06 PM
>> *To:* michael gursteinpe
>> *Cc:* '1Net List'
>> *Subject:* Re: [discuss] NetMundial Initiative
>>
>> there are a few things mentioned in the background paper -- some about
>> capacity building, one about working to build trust in the internet
>> and its governance ecosystem, and one about addressing internet issues.
>>
>> *From:*michael gurstein <mailto:gurstein at gmail.com>
>>
>> *Sent:*Thursday, August 14, 2014 10:43 AM
>>
>> *To:*'Ian Peter' <mailto:ian.peter at ianpeter.com> ; 'Joana Varon'
>> <mailto:joana at varonferraz.com> ; 'Carlos A. Afonso'
>> <mailto:ca at cafonso.ca>
>>
>> *Cc:*'1Net List' <mailto:discuss at 1net.org>
>>
>> *Subject:*RE: [discuss] NetMundial Initiative
>>
>> So what do you think they are looking to build?
>>
>> M
>>
>> *From:*discuss-bounces at 1net.org <mailto:discuss-bounces at 1net.org>
>> [mailto:discuss-bounces at 1net.org] *On Behalf Of *Ian Peter
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 13, 2014 5:01 PM
>> *To:* Ian Peter; Joana Varon; Carlos A. Afonso
>> *Cc:* 1Net List
>> *Subject:* Re: [discuss] NetMundial Initiative
>>
>> Just to clarify my ambiguous statement-- the comment below as regards
>> "all from western countries" applies to academic selections, not civil
>> society. so to rephrase:
>>
>> representation is very imbalanced. Only 6 legitimate civil society
>> people and 4 academics among over 100 attendees. And over 90 % of
>> business reps, and 100% of academic reps, are from western countries.
>>
>> Yes, I know, you have to start somewhere. But if you are building
>> something, foundations matter.
>>
>> http://t.co/xUxOf0AvLl
>>
>> *From:*Ian Peter <mailto:ian.peter at ianpeter.com>
>>
>> *Sent:*Thursday, August 14, 2014 9:50 AM
>>
>> *To:*Joana Varon <mailto:joana at varonferraz.com> ; Carlos A. Afonso
>> <mailto:ca at cafonso.ca>
>>
>> *Cc:*1Net List <mailto:discuss at 1net.org>
>>
>> *Subject:*Re: [discuss] NetMundial Initiative
>>
>> there are a few leaked documents here.
>>
>> http://t.co/xUxOf0AvLl
>>
>> representation is very imbalanced. Only 6 legitimate civil society
>> people, 4 academics (all from western countries) among over 100
>> attendees. And over 90 % of business reps are from western countries.
>>
>> Yes, I know, you have to start somewhere. But if you are building
>> something, foundations matter.
>>
>> Ian Peter
>>
>> *From:*Joana Varon <mailto:joana at varonferraz.com>
>>
>> *Sent:*Thursday, August 14, 2014 6:59 AM
>>
>> *To:*Carlos A. Afonso <mailto:ca at cafonso.ca>
>>
>> *Cc:*1Net List <mailto:discuss at 1net.org>
>>
>> *Subject:*Re: [discuss] NetMundial Initiative
>>
>> @Peter, there is nowhere to see that. That is exactly the problem, no
>> one has been informed. As we can see from the answers of our
>> colleagues in this list. Quite different from NETMundial organization
>> process, transparency, openness and participation has not being the
>> values so far.
>>
>> It would be super useful we can use this list to exchange information
>> (as proposed by Avri) and views. Particularly because not everyone has
>> access to information on that.
>>
>> best
>>
>> joana
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 4:09 PM, Carlos A. Afonso <ca at cafonso.ca
>> <mailto:ca at cafonso.ca>> wrote:
>>
>> Most of us in BR also know very little about this. Glad to have this
>> dialogue.
>>
>> []s fraternos
>>
>> --c.a.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 08/13/2014 01:17 PM, Stephanie Perrin wrote:
>>
>> 1. Great idea to re-initiate the list.  Thanks!
>> 2.  I know absolutely nothing but am very curious.
>> Stephanie
>> On 14-08-13 11:52 AM, Avri Doria wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 13-Aug-14 09:29, Nnenna Nwakanma wrote:
>>
>> I'm interested in the answer.
>> Shouldnt it be a "Yes"?
>>
>> Probably, and perhaps I was being silly asking.  It was just with the
>> re-birth of the list, I figured to tread carefully at first.
>>
>> I understand there will be some sort of announcement at the IGF about
>> it, and I have been a part of few conversations where it was discussed,
>> but where few of us really knew what we were talking about because each
>> of us knew so little.  These were conversations in which various people
>> tried to gather the shards of information they had managed to collect on
>> the behind the scenes NI organizing effort, to try and get a larger
>> picture.
>>
>> I was hoping that:
>>
>> a. this list might be an appropriate place to gather more of those
>> shards together
>>
>> b. that perhaps, those with authoritative knowledge might share it.
>>
>> c. this larger non-governmental multistakeholder assemblage could start
>> vetting the idea.
>>
>> But maybe I go too far while trying to tread carefully.
>>
>> avri
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> discuss mailing list
>> discuss at 1net.org <mailto:discuss at 1net.org>
>> http://1net-mail.1net.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> discuss mailing list
>> discuss at 1net.org <mailto:discuss at 1net.org>
>> http://1net-mail.1net.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> discuss mailing list
>> discuss at 1net.org <mailto:discuss at 1net.org>
>> http://1net-mail.1net.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> --
>>
>> Joana Varon Ferraz
>> @joana_varon
>> PGP 0x016B8E73
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> discuss mailing list
>> discuss at 1net.org <mailto:discuss at 1net.org>
>> http://1net-mail.1net.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> discuss mailing list
>> discuss at 1net.org <mailto:discuss at 1net.org>
>> http://1net-mail.1net.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> discuss mailing list
>> discuss at 1net.org
>> http://1net-mail.1net.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> discuss mailing list
> discuss at 1net.org
> http://1net-mail.1net.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>