[discuss] ICANN policy and "Internet Governance"

Sat Jan 4 22:58:12 UTC 2014

Yes. Ian. I think this is the kind of burden that ICANN has to manage
how to be free of, as soon as possible. Some years ago I said that,
imho, ICANN has to go from one government with a special status to
zero governments, and at the same time provide all stakeholder with
the way to be heard in equitable way. This includes a better
definition of GAC positions and, mainly, to devote more time and
effort in spreading the discussion about the IPv6 scenario, the needed
use of encryption , some needed tools in DNS arena, like DNSSEC. Now,
with the Snowden effect, the technical community wil be  working hard
on alleviating the "lost of trust", specially on privacy issues. A
multi layered work...
best
demi

On 1/3/14, Ian Peter <ian.peter at ianpeter.com> wrote:
> But the simple fact is, Demi, that ICANN is tainted by this special and
> unilateral relationship.
>
> I gather this is probably one of the reasons the Montevideo statement
> includes the following
>
> “They called for accelerating the globalization of ICANN and IANA functions,
> towards an environment in which all stakeholders, including all governments,
> participate on an equal footing.”
>
>
>
> I also suggest this was also the prime original motivator for ICANN
> approaching Brazil as regards the forthcoming summit.
>
>
>
> We can talk about layers and dissect and theorise as much as we like, but
> this widely  perceived problem has to be dealt with one way or another, and
> it is a problem with governance of ICANN.  Best we come up with a good way
> to deal with this.
>
>
>
> Ian Peter
>
>
> From: Demi Getschko
> Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2014 12:58 AM
> To: Ian Peter
> Cc: Nick Ashton-Hart ; Jorge Amodio ; discuss at 1net.org
> Subject: Re: [discuss] ICANN policy and "Internet Governance"
>
>>And because, even if benignly, the government responsible for the NSA’s
>> massive invasions of privacy and breaches of sovereignty enjoys a unique
>> unilateral relationship with ICANN in terms of its unique role as regards
>> root >zone authorisation.
>>Ian Peter
>
> Ok, but besides the fact that it is the very same government, I do not see
> any other relationship between the NSA invasions and ICANN (or, even,
> Internet resources themselves). It was, basically, a traditional
> infrastructure breach, with the probable collaboration of some business
> sectors at the higher levels, leveraged by the huge computer power available
> today, the (traditional) geographic concentration of the undersea fiber,
> plus illegal telephonic monitoring...
> demi
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> On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 6:34 AM, Ian Peter <ian.peter at ianpeter.com> wrote:
>
>   And because, even if benignly, the government responsible for the NSA’s
> massive invasions of privacy and breaches of sovereignty enjoys a unique
> unilateral relationship with ICANN in terms of its unique role as regards
> root zone authorisation.
>
>   Ian Peter
>
>   From: Nick Ashton-Hart
>   Sent: Friday, January 03, 2014 7:27 PM
>   To: Jorge Amodio ; Avri Doria
>   Cc: discuss at 1net.org
>   Subject: Re: [discuss] ICANN policy and "Internet Governance"
>
>   Because the gory details of their activities are not being disclosed daily
> and because the majority of the technology and Internet bandwidth does not
> pass through either country.
>
>
>
>
>   Jorge Amodio <jmamodio at gmail.com> wrote:
> One more comment
>   we are doing for ourselves as a multistakeholder organization. The NSA
> fiasco makes doing ICANN's job harder.  That makes it an Internet
> governance, for want of a better term, issue.Why are we focusing so much on
> the NSA fiasco ? What about the China fiasco, the Russia fiasco, the Turkey
> fiasco, the India fiasco, the Tunis fiasco, and so on ?
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