[discuss] Internet governance recommended reading

Sun Jan 5 09:48:53 UTC 2014

Consensus and agreement does not work by osmosis and some issues will require more discussion and give and take than others. 

Sooner or later we will start to have some common ground that will facilitate to reach some level of consensus, but we need to let pass the statements phase (ala public forum) where each one is able to express her/his opinion and position, ask questions, and after that then switch to listening mode.

Me included.

Regards
-Jorge

> On Jan 5, 2014, at 2:48 AM, Mawaki Chango <kichango at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Good! Then maybe we should keep this thread going hoping for the consensus spirit to spill over and inundate the other threads? ;)
> -mc
> 
> 
>> On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 11:00 PM, Nigel Hickson <nigel.hickson at icann.org> wrote:
>> Adam
>> 
>> Agree; at last something uncontroversial! In "Government" (i.e. Acting
>> within a particular Government) "governance" is quite clear; with a
>> capital it makes less sense but quite acceptable in a title like IGF.
>> 
>> Best
>> 
>> Nigel
>> 
>> 
>> On 1/4/14 6:02 PM, "Adam Peake" <ajp at glocom.ac.jp> wrote:
>> 
>> >
>> >On Jan 5, 2014, at 2:08 AM, Avri Doria wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi,
>> >>
>> >> I have always written it that way.  Think I even used that
>> >>capitalization in some of the early IGF (i wish it was IgF) documents
>> >>when I was on the secretariat, though I am not sure whether they got
>> >>'corrected' by the powers that be who did the final edits for UNDESA.
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >I'm pretty sure the IGF has used "Internet governance..."  unless in
>> >titles of meetings, sessions, and the like.  As did the WSIS
>> >declarations.  Mistakes are made, but if there were a style sheet it
>> >would have been with g not G.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >> I think it is an important signifier as it indicates that the
>> >>governance is subordinate to the Internet and its realities.  Just like
>> >>Internet protocols or Internet architecture.
>> >
>> >That might be getting a bit deep.  Quite a few write internet not
>> >Internet.  You might find The Economist (UK) using internet governance?
>> >
>> >Adam
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >> avri
>> >> 1/4 EST
>> >>
>> >> On 04-Jan-14 09:41, Mawaki Chango wrote:
>> >>> Oh, I see... In fact, I thought many of us have been also writing the
>> >>> phrase that way. But maybe she conceptualizes that choice more clearly
>> >>> (I haven't read the book... yet) or maybe in some quarters they
>> >>> systematically write it with capital "G" for the reasons you perceive,
>> >>> suspect and state. Anyway, thanks for the clarification.
>> >>>
>> >>> -mc
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 2:25 PM, Jorge Amodio <jmamodio at gmail.com
>> >>> <mailto:jmamodio at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>    The capital G, IMHO it helps to disassociate the direct relationship
>> >>>    with "G"overnment as it is UN common practice to refer to with a
>> >>>    capital G.
>> >>>
>> >>>    -J
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>    On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 8:21 AM, Mawaki Chango <kichango at gmail.com
>> >>>    <mailto:kichango at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>        On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 9:00 AM, Jorge Amodio <jmamodio at gmail.com
>> >>>        <mailto:jmamodio at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>            First thing I liked, she talks about "Internet governance"
>> >>>            not "Governance"
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>        Sorry, I'm missing the news or the point here: is it the
>> >>>        deletion of the word "Internet" from the phrase or the use of
>> >>>        capital G which is less likable in your view?
>> >>>
>> >>>        mawaki
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
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