[discuss] cgi.br release regarding Brazil Global MSM on InternetGovernance

Sat Jan 11 06:21:56 UTC 2014

Ian,

confess, confess... you enjoy catfights more than revolutions. This fight
for equality was lost before it started and as soon as vapidity,
divisiveness and dysfunctionality sucked the oxygen out of the air. Not
once did a government official need to express anything on this list to
have this major battle won.

Don't let this parenthesis spoil the fun games; carry on please.

Yours,

Alejandro Pisanty

On Sat, Jan 11, 2014 at 12:16 AM, Ian Peter <ian.peter at ianpeter.com> wrote:

>   Yes, Alx,
>
> I agree with your points – we have a long way to go before we are really
> equal partners with governments in multistakeholderland; on many levels.
>
> My thoughts were purely on process for non-governmental reps at this stage
> (and I mis-read the EMC in my original posting). Because for some of us
> processes are underway and there was uncertainty about numbers (and changes
> for some of us announced for the first time here).
>
> I don’t know whether we can achieve much in this short pre Brazil period
> but if there is a general feeling here to complain that there should only
> be 3 governments (to align with other stakeholder numeric representation) I
> certainly wouldn’t oppose it. Or expect it to make any difference.
>
> But I would love in that case to be a fly on the wall observing
> governments choosing 3 representatives to cover all their
> interests/factions/regions globally – while having some empathy given the
> difficulties any of us have in choosing 3 representatives to cover our full
> communities, be they civil society, technical, academic, or business.
>
> Ian Peter
>
>
>  *From:* Alejandro Pisanty <apisanty at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Saturday, January 11, 2014 4:53 PM
> *To:* Ian Peter <ian.peter at ianpeter.com>
> *Cc:* John Curran <jcurran at istaff.org> ; 1Net List <discuss at 1net.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [discuss] cgi.br release regarding Brazil Global MSM on
> InternetGovernance
>
>  Ian,
>
> wouldn't there be a larger concern for the fact that the main committee is
> 50-50 governments vs. the world (in which they can still have allies)? Plus
> a purely intergovernental, to be tailor-made, advisory committee. That's
> already a major victory for the Brazil government and consistent with  a
> composition of the Multistakeholder Advisory Group of the IGF (Internet
> Governance Forum) which has been for years a very high hurdle to surmount
> and a gross violation of WSIS.
>
> Yours,
>
> Alejandro Pisanty
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 10:41 PM, Ian Peter <ian.peter at ianpeter.com>wrote:
>
>> Interesting as regards the committees -
>>
>> stakeholder groups within 1net were looking at nominations for HLC (these
>> have now been announced as 3/3/3/3) and also for Executive Multistakeholder
>> Committee - but these appear to have been filled locally and are no longer
>> required?? Am I correct in my understanding here?
>>
>> Ian Peter
>>
>> -----Original Message----- From: John Curran
>> Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2014 3:19 PM
>> To: 1Net List
>> Subject: [discuss] cgi.br release regarding Brazil Global MSM on
>> InternetGovernance
>>
>> 1net Participants -
>>
>>   There appears to be an updated announcement regarding the Brazil
>> meeting -
>>   http://www.cgi.br/brmeeting/announcement2.html
>>
>> FYI,
>> /John
>>
>> Disclaimer: My views alone.
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