[discuss] shifts in IANA/accountability discussion: your thoughts?

Thu Jun 19 22:16:50 UTC 2014

The overall point is that everything man made has cost associated to it one
way or the other; it is either paid or paid for.
So when someone says "internet should be free", I can only hope that he is
saying "internet cost should be paid FOR by someone else". While also
indicating the specific person to pay so we go pursuing him/her.

Cheers!

sent from Google nexus 4
kindly excuse brevity and typos.
On 19 Jun 2014 19:08, "Barry Shein" <bzs at world.std.com> wrote:

>
> From: Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji at gmail.com>
>
> >Yay! You will have one more supporter once you give me an example of a man
> >made invention that is free to all.
>
> Is this a trick question where you get to say but those are paid for
> by taxes or similar?
>
> Most roads, bridges, sidewalks, public parks, police, firefighting,
> internet surveillance (you may not want it but you don't get a bill at
> least :-), in many countries libraries, ...
>
> But of course this will reduce to "someone is paying for it!".
>
> Which is still very different from whether, for example, the poorest
> person can utilize the resource (sidewalks, parks, etc) or not.
>
> So we need different terminology because this is just a semantic trick
> revolving around what the word "free" means.
>
> Worse, is that free as in "beer" or as in "speech" as FSF says?
>
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