[discuss] Place to discuss mass surveillance (was Re: [governance] NTIA statement)

Sun Mar 16 16:46:07 UTC 2014

Hello Victor,

On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 5:21 PM, Victor Ndonnang
<ndonnang at nvconsulting.biz>wrote:

> +1 Adiel.
> Surveillance and intelligence agencies was there before the Internet. Even
> if the Internet has a role in the mass surveillance...USG/NTIA intent to
> transfer IANA and root zone management related to the global independent
> Multistakeholder entity is not a response to the mass surveillance issue.
>

++1

> May be that Global Multistakeholder entity will be the IETF or I... to help
> strengthen security, privacy and trust on the Internet.
>

Could you perhaps further explain on what you mean here.... as i think IETF
will do its part by attempting to turn discussion from truely
multistakeholder platforms into technical implementation through her
creation of RFCs by interested individuals/team. (this does not necessarily
mean they must, however the hope is that those who are involved in both
platforms will be encouraged to do so). So my point is that everybody has a
role to play and it does not necessarily lie on one side than the other.

> The Internet Governance is mainly a technical thing, let's leave the
> technical community takes care of it with the full participation and inputs
> of others stakeholders.
>

I beg to disagree on this. Infact if your comment above is the case then
perhaps there won't be need for /1Net in the first place, because all what
has been discussed on this list are not entirely technical.

Cheers!

> Regards,
> Victor.
>
>
>
>
> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : discuss-bounces at 1net.org [mailto:discuss-bounces at 1net.org] De la part
> de Adiel Akplogan
> Envoyé : Sunday, March 16, 2014 8:48 AM
> À : Seun Ojedeji
> Cc : 1 Net List; Civil Society Internet Governance Caucus - IGC
> Objet : Re: [discuss] [governance] NTIA statement
>
> I disagree as well. In this discussion it is very important to dissociate
> the USG/NTIA by role in the performance of IANA function by ICANN and the
> issue related to mass surveillance. The two are not technically linked and
> should be addressed separately.
>
> - a.
>
> On Mar 16, 2014, at 11:03 AM, Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Well I would not disagree that mass surveillance indeed continues.
> >
> > Any NSA statement that says otherwise?
> >
> > Cheers!
> > sent from Google nexus 4
> > kindly excuse brevity and typos.
> >
> > On 15 Mar 2014 19:08, "Joly MacFie" <joly at punkcast.com> wrote:
> > Disagree,
> >
> > Different department.
> >
> > j
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 7:06 AM, Louis Pouzin (well) <pouzin at well.com>
> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > The IANA ballyhoo comes from the same factory as the "internet freedom"
> smoke screen launched before WCIT. It's a spin diversion for the show.
> >
> > Mass surveillance continues. What's new ?
> >
> > Louis
> >
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