[discuss] [governance] U.S. to Give Up Oversight of Web Policymaking Body

Tue Mar 18 05:58:18 UTC 2014

Hello all,

Good questions from Milton which could help us really appreciate/understand
the current role of the NTIA. Those with history of these organisations
needs to come in here and answer the fairly direct questions:
- Has ICANN been accountable thus far
- What has made ICANN accountable up till now.

While this is not suppose to be the ultimate place where IANA globalization
is to be discussed, I think if the discussions here can have a clear
direction it will really Help make great progress in the multi-stakeholder
environment.

One of the weakness of multi- stakeholderism is the ability to come up with
a resolution as fast as possible. The multi-stakeholder community has been
calling for globalization, well now you have it. Government (and ITU) are
keenly watching (and perhaps also doing background homework) waiting for
the multistakeholder team to fail at delivering a workable proposal then
they will come up with their own already shelved proposal which ofcourse
may  not necessarily be in the interest of the internet community.

We should not allow our weakness to be used against us. I suggest we dust
out the DSNA proposal and determine how it could be implemented such that
both DNSA-like establishment and ICANN will be accountable to one another
without government interference.

Thanks!
sent from Google nexus 4
kindly excuse brevity and typos.
On 18 Mar 2014 01:57, "Milton L Mueller" <mueller at syr.edu> wrote:
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> From: Steve Crocker [mailto:steve at shinkuro.com]
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> >The actual obligation is to meet the needs of the community,
particularly the several groups that depend >on the IANA publication of the
unique identifiers.  The IETF, the TLD operators, the RIRs and the root
>operators all pay close attention to the IANA function and all have a
strong say in the performance.  These >accountability and feedback
mechanisms are in place
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> Really? What are the accountability mechanisms by which, say, the IETF
could bring the IANA-in-ICANN to account in the absence of the NTIA
contract? What leverage does, say, a TLD operator hold over ICANN's IANA
that could correct aberrant behavior (again assuming the NTIA contract
disappears)?
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> We can rule out the following accountability mechanisms:
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> - they cannot shift their business to another service provider.
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> - they cannot hire or fire staff
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> - they cannot recall the ICANN board
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> - they cannot vote in board elections
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> Unless I am mistaken, none of these options exist.
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> >NTIA's formal contract has been a visible but largely redundant overlay,
and to the extent they have said >anything about the performance of the
IANA function, they have been reflecting input given to them from >the same
bodies.
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> Why would they be giving that input to NTIA, I wonder, rather than, say,
the ICANN board?
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