[discuss] [governance] NTIA statement

Thu Mar 20 11:39:04 UTC 2014

> Norbert,
> 
> I don't know what you are looking for here.
> 
> Would you like to deny that he said that?
> 
> Would you like to deny that a link to a video in which he said that
> was posted?

Hi McTim

If Fadi indeed said what you claim he said then I want to be able to
understand the context, quote his statement, and give the source.

If on the other hand the assertion about Fadi having said this in a
well-publicized video cannot be substantiated, I'd request that that
assertion be withdrawn.

Greetings,
Norbert

> If it wasn't on governance, perhaps it was on BB or 1net.
> 
> I know he said it, I don't know if he meant it, I know that a link to
> the video was posted and discussed.
> 
> rgds,
> 
> McTim
> 
> On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 4:45 AM, Norbert Bollow <nb at bollow.ch> wrote:
> > Hi McTim
> >
> > I've now looked in the archives of governance list... in your
> > postings from that time period, there is precisely one link to a
> > video of Fadi, this one:
> >
> > http://blog.planalto.gov.br/brasil-vai-sediar-encontro-mundial-sobre-governanca-da-internet-em-2014/
> >
> > That video does not contain any basis for your claim about Fadi
> > having said something along the lines of "if surveillance were
> > discussed, ICANN would pull out."
> >
> > Greetings,
> > Norbert
> >
> >
> >
> > Am Wed, 19 Mar 2014 19:54:43 -0400
> > schrieb McTim <mctimconsulting at gmail.com>:
> >
> >> We discussed this months ago on the governance list, it is in one
> >> of the first video interviews
> >> he made post NetMundial announcement.  I pointed at it then, you'll
> >> have to look in the archives.
> >>
> >> rgds,
> >>
> >> McTim
> >>
> >> On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 6:15 PM, Norbert Bollow <nb at bollow.ch>
> >> wrote:
> >> > McTim <mctimconsulting at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 1:16 AM, parminder
> >> >> <parminder at itforchange.net> wrote:
> >> >> > Agree, developments on the ICANN oversight issue do not
> >> >> > constitute any real response to mass surveillance problem. And
> >> >> > since NetMundial came out of a series of events directly
> >> >> > connected to the mass surveillance problem, and which is the
> >> >> > main reason the 'global community' invested into it, it is
> >> >> > only fair to the people across the world that we have
> >> >> >
> >> >> > 1. discussions on this issues
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> You must recall Fadi saying in the very early days that if
> >> >> surveillance were discussed, ICANN would pull out.
> >> >
> >> > When and where precisely did Fadi say this? Is there a recording
> >> > and/or transcript available?
> >> >
> >> > Greetings,
> >> > Norbert
> >