[discuss] IPv6 Deployment and IG

Sat Dec 28 06:54:12 UTC 2013

Thanks Kolnam for the example in your region. So long as there is an open
process in developing policies that determines how the resources are
allocated then this is fine. However I just think taking it further to
national could make the process become political influenced (especially now
that there is shortage of v4). Nevertheless I expect the RIR still have a
general oversight in this to keep track on accountability of NIR.

Cheers!

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On 28 Dec 2013 02:23, "kilnam chon" <chonkn at gmail.com> wrote:

> seun, milton and all,
>
> in asia-pacific, we had NIRs first around 1993 including japan.
> these NIRs collaborate to incubate APNIC in 1993-1995.
> later, more NIRs were created including china, taiwan,...
>
> many NIRs in asia are (one of) the first internet organization
> organizations
> in their countries, and often play the role of the internet (technical)
> coordination, and many other countries in asia followed.
>
> chon
>
>
> On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 6:25 AM, Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> sent from Google nexus 4
>> On 27 Dec 2013 21:38, "Seun Ojedeji" <seun.ojedeji at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 9:33 PM, Ken Stubbs <kstubbs at afilias.info>
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Pardon my ignorance Nii but,
>> >>
>> >> Why  ?
>> >
>> >
>> > And why should there be NIRs?
>> >
>> Perhaps the understanding of why NIRs were really found to be necessary
>> and useful in other continents could be a useful information to
>> others(especially when RIR have not failed to serve her region properly). I
>> know India NIR was setup not long ago
>>
>>  Cheers!
>>
>> >>
>> >> Ken
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On 12/27/2013 3:20 PM, Nii Narku Quaynor wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Milton,
>> >>> There are no NIRs in Africa
>> >>> Nii
>> >>>
>> >>> On Dec 27, 2013, at 19:15, Milton L Mueller <mueller at syr.edu> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>>> All of which ignores the fact that IP addresses are allocated,
>> >>>>> routed, and used topologically, not geographically. Which
>> >>>>> means that all discussion of them in terms of physical
>> >>>>> geography and national boundaries is completely pointless.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>  From the standpoint of pure technical efficiency, perhaps so. But
>> then you need to explain to me why we have a growing number of NIRs in Asia
>> and Africa (including Japan) and I why I spent several months this year
>> trying to prevent the US DEA and DoJ from imposing jurisdictional
>> boundaries on ARIN allocations on the basis of a "know your customer"
>> rationale. To me the explanation seems obvious; if a political authority
>> can align allocation and assignment authority with their own jurisdiction
>> then they have more power over Internet uses and users.
>> >>>>
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