[discuss] A thought experiment - what follows the 'IANA transition?'

michael gurstein gurstein at gmail.com
Wed Apr 2 20:08:02 UTC 2014


So are you saying that all these issues should be subjected to multistakeholder decision-making processes, only some (which ones... and so on...

I'ld also be interested in hearing from folks from the technical community since my understanding is that you are a lobbyist err lawyer for the copyright industry in the US and so may have a quite specific interest in promoting a multistakeholder model in very extensive areas.


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Greg Shatan

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So, is it the sense of this discussion that the items mentioned by Moonesamy below are the appropriate extent of application of the "multistakeholder model" for Global (Internet) Policy decision-making and that other strategies for organizing decision making processes are required in the other areas.


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Hi Mike,
At 11:09 02-04-2014, michael gurstein wrote:
>It might be interesting and useful to know (as an extension of the 
>thought experiment for example) which of the issues listed below 
>various colleagues thought might be applicable to IETF type 
>multistakeholder decision making processes and which might not 
>(recognizing that multistakeholder consultation processes will have 
>value in a much broader range of issue areas).

I am not sure about the meaning of "IETF type multistakeholder decision making processes".  I'll comment on some of the issues which were listed.

There was a research group (not in the IETF) working on spam.  The group spent many years on that problem and did not produce anything.  There is a government agency which tried to get a group in the IETF to work on solving spam-related problems.  There was
(informal) agreement to take that problem to the ITU as the communication model being proposed was better suited for that organization [1].  There is an ITU Study Group working on countering spam [2].

There were IETF working groups which worked on internationalization.  The working groups have been closed as they completed their work.

There is some ongoing work in an IETF working group which is related to exchanging information about security incidents.  That might be related to "cybercrime".

There are always technical choices.  If I participate in the IETF I would follow http://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc2026 Some of these technical choices can affect the security of the internet [3].  I suggest subscribing to the IETF discussion list [4] (if you are not already subscribed) if you are interested in technical choices or the security of the internet.

S. Moonesamy

1. This is from my memory.  I suggest treating it as unreliable information.
2. http://www.itu.int/en/ITU-T/about/groups/Pages/sg17.aspx
3. There are other venues in which technical choices relating to the security of the internet are discussed.
4. https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf

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