[discuss] Troll

Wed Apr 16 08:19:50 UTC 2014

Personally I don’t think the name in the mail header is enough. Transparency works both ways. It should be clear who is posting and who (if any) they represent. I too, have dropped many threads on this list as it simply goes pointless once it heads in a certain direction.

Oli Hope

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Subject: Re: [discuss] Troll

You mean the name in the mail header is not enough? OR Are you saying that people should add a signature to their mail. Well I think this is an open list and one could chose to contribute anonymously or otherwise so long as the content is not unethical and not out of scope.

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On 16 Apr 2014 04:57, "James Bladel" <james at bladel.org<mailto:james at bladel.org>> wrote:
Agree with Jay.

And perhaps a good first step might be to require posters to clearly disclose their identity and affiliation.

Thanks--

J.
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On Apr 15, 2014, at 20:04, Jay Daley <jay at nzrs.net.nz<mailto:jay at nzrs.net.nz>> wrote:

> Thanks George.
>
> I recommend that the process includes a clause to cover the potential situation where a troll posts to this list using multiple identities.
>
> regards
> Jay
>
>
>> On 16/04/2014, at 12:27 pm, George Sadowsky <george.sadowsky at gmail.com<mailto:george.sadowsky at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> I agree.  The Steering Committee has agreed to put into effect certain processes to deal with this, modeled after IETF procedures for dealing with the same behavior.  We should see a proposal, and then hopefully something being put into practice very soon.
>>
>>
>>> On Apr 15, 2014, at 4:50 PM, Jay Daley <jay at nzrs.net.nz<mailto:jay at nzrs.net.nz>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Are there others out there who would agree with me that this list is being overwhelmed by messages from at least one troll?  In particular messages that make ludicrous claims, provide nonsensical analysis, follow arbitrary directions and altogether are seriously disruptive to the conversation taking place?
>>>
>>> In my view this list is too important and already too time consuming to allow any trolls to disrupt it in this way.
>>>
>>> If so then what if any process do we have for removing such a troll?
>>>
>>> I note that the IETF, which is a long established multi-stakeholder organisation has also had problems like this and working group chairs have very occasionally had to ban people from posting to mailing lists.  Those bans were then subject to two levels of appeal:
>>>
>>> https://www.ietf.org/iesg/appeal.html
>>> https://www.iab.org/appeals/
>>>
>>> cheers
>>> Jay
>>>
>>> PS I will post a similar message to the IANA transition list.
>>>
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