[discuss] [ciresearchers] NETmundial documents online for comment

michael gurstein gurstein at gmail.com
Fri Apr 18 12:57:05 UTC 2014

Thanks Adam, I'll take a look as you suggest but again as my comments deal
with the document as a whole simply making comments on "one page" of the
document via the "Introduction" hardly seems appropriate.


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From: Adam Peake [mailto:ajp at glocom.ac.jp] 
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Subject: Re: [ciresearchers] NETmundial documents online for comment 

Hi Michael,

If you click on the title of a section you will see an option to leave a
comment on the whole page

<http://document.netmundial.br/introduction/> click INTRODUCTION
<http://document.netmundial.br/1-internet-governance-principles/> click 1.

As a meta meta comment, perhaps introduction works best for you?


On Apr 18, 2014, at 9:08 PM, michael gurstein wrote:

> Thanks for this Adam and for pointing to the opportunity for making
> And I have several comments.  However, given how the comments element for
the document is structured I don't see how I can usefully introduce them
into that format since I want to comment not on what is in the document; but
rather on what isn't in the document.
> In that context I see two notable and even astonishing absences.
> 1.       The document as presented refers to
stakeholders/multistakeholderism in its discussions of the global Internet
governance model in one form or another 46 times! While on the other hand,
the document contains no, and let me repeat, NO references to democracy or
democratic governance! 
> Clearly there is an intent to replace democratic governance with
multistakeholder governance. But this issue is not addressed in a forthright
manner anywhere in the document.
> 2.       The document nowhere identifies an overall objective for the
governance it is discussing. That is, for what purpose or to what end are
the governance structures/models being directed?
> To put it bluntly is the proposed governance of the Internet being
undertaken in support of the "public interest" or in the interests of the
individual "stakeholders" among whom of course certain private corporate and
national interests/stakes are pre-eminent? Given what is identified in item
#1 the answer to this second question would appear to be self-evident.
> Of course, these issues were not addressed by myself or others in the 188
position papers presented to the NetMundial conference.  Thus one could
perversely argue that their absence in the Outcome Statement is a reflection
of the failure by contributors to argue for their inclusion. 
> However, the perversity of this argument is obvious when one asks the
question, is democratic governance in the public interest not something that
can be assumed, taken as a given in an area as significant, whose influence
is so pervasive, as the Internet. Need one even argue that the governance of
the Internet must occur within a democratic framework and directed in
support of the public interest.
> Who could possibly have imagined that this conference dealing with global
(Internet) governance would, completely replace the 1000 year evolution of
democratic governance in support of the public interest and replace this
with governance by and for "stakeholders" acting in pursuit of their
individual and private interests.
> Given, as I mentioned, that I see no way of introducing these comments
into the commentary section on the document it would be appreciated if you
would yourself, forward these to the relevant NetMundial authorities for
consideration as they are preparing their final drafts of the output
statement for the meeting.
> Sincerely,
> Michael Gurstein
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> Peake
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> Please see <http://document.netmundial.br/> Use the Navigate button.
Information below.
> Comments will close April 21th, 12:00 UTC.
> Adam
> After an open call for content contribution, NETmundial - the Global
Multistakeholder Meeting on the Future of Internet Governance - received 188
documents from 46 different countries. These documents were sent by
representatives of Civil Society, Private Sector, Academy, Governments and
Technical Community.
> Based on these broad set of inputs, NETmundial's Executive
Multistakeholder Committee (EMC) prepared a Draft Outcome Document and
submitted it for consultation with NETmundial's High-level Multistakeholder
Committee (HLMC) on April 3rd, 2014. After incorporating the inputs from the
HLMC, under the guidance of NETmundial's Chair and Co-Chairs, a final
version of the document is released here for public comments. The public
consultation will be open for comments on NETmundial's Executive Committee
Output Document from April 14th until April 21th, 12:00 UTC.
> For this public consultation a commenting tool is available online at
http://document.netmundial.br/ with the purpose of receiving public comments
on specific points of the document. It is not necessary to create an account
in order to post your comment to the document. You'll be able to immediately
start reading the document and whenever you have something to say, you'll
just have to provide a full name and contact email address alongside your
> By clicking on any paragraph of the document, you'll be able to see all
the comments other people have already made pertaining to that portion of
the text; as referred above, you are also granted the possibility  to
register your own observations. Maybe your concern was already addressed in
someone else's comment, so please be sure to take a look at the previous
comments before making yours.
> This public consultation closes the loop that started by collecting public
content contributions. Such contributions were compiled and merged into the
Outcome Document by the NETmundial EMC and HLMC committees in the spirit of
trying to represent the overall context of the current Internet Governance
debate. It is very important to receive further public input in this final
stage, so that the outcome is true to the issues and concerns presented by
all stakeholders.

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