[discuss] [IANAtransition] VGN dynamic coalition and enhanced cooperation

FSP4NET alliance at fsp4.net
Sun Apr 20 15:04:55 UTC 2014

cc: trimmed. No need to advertize the world that you still are out of 
tune with what you want to govern.


:-)  :-)
Not bad!
Wrong conclusions, but not bad!
Gregory has time to waste, so we are going to help him.

Solution is so much more simple: JFC gave it to you a few weeks ago, 
but you joked at it!
You might also do what has been told to you already many times: read 
our 16 years old http://telepresse.com.

More seriously, we wanted to know (we are not that many, but we are 
from the Multitude, tere are many like us, and due to your publicity 
some are joining us!) what MSism really meant for ICANN people. From 
experimentation (cf. ICANN/ICP-3). We know it now. The same as we 
learnt it from IETF. We know there is no chance that the NTIA 
succeeds with you what they want/needs(?); at least as long as you 
yave not adjusted to those we call the IUsers, i.e. the users of the 
internet itself, as opposed to the end users. The IETF eventually did 
it nicely: and in turn we have learned a lot from them about 
ourselves and our architectonic localtion.

It is exact (this is not a priority: we first have to restore 60 
sites after the hack your attitude seems to have triggered) that we 
have been slack in administering world at wide (http://wwide.org) those 
last years and rested on various private resources, tools and 
solutions. This is part of the FSP4NET/NETORSEC project to 
consolidate and rationalize our VGNs solutions, based on our 
experience and for the projects we have engaged. We are more 
interested in real work that in paperwork. And have not much time.

Say "hello" to Hasting and Japp for us!

"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, 
then you win!" Gandhi.

At 04:10 20/04/2014, Mike Roberts wrote:
>Thanks for the research, Greg.  I have engaged the services of 
>Hercule Poirot to further investigate this egregious breach of 
>Internet etiquette and manners.
>- Mike
>ps.  A famous person once said, "Hospitality's nice, but so are manners."
>On Apr 19, 2014, at 6:31 PM, Shatan, Gregory S. <GShatan at ReedSmith.com> wrote:
> > Here are two more solutions to similar "puzzles," including the 
> "Michel Gauthier" puzzle  In both cases, the solution (i.e., 
> identity) is the same -- Jefsey Morfin.
> >
> > First, all of the domain names involved in this effort (fsp4.net, 
> jefsey.com, telepresse.com, and dnsa.org (and around 650 other 
> domain names)) are  registered to the same street address:
> >
> > 120 chemin des Crouzettes
> > Saint Vincent de Barbeyrargues
> > Herault 34730
> > FR
> >
> > The registrant names vary somewhat (UTEL, UTELNET and WORLD at WIDE 
> (twice) are used on these four).  However, on Google maps, this 
> address appears to be a private residence in a residential area.  A 
> number of houses here are tagged with names (presumably residents 
> and/or owners). This location is tagged with the last name 
> "Morfin."  Therefore it would appear that Jefsey Morfin is the 
> owner of all of these domain names, despite the various aliases.
> >
> > Second, the Wikipedia article on "Michel Gauthier" was apparently 
> self-written (i.e., by the person purporting to be "Michel 
> Gauthier"): the first comment on the history is "documenté l'action 
> que je mène aprés avoir documenté mon nom "  ("documented my 
> efforts after having documented my name ").  Therefore, the author 
> must be "Michel Gauthier."   The author was not logged into 
> Wikipedia, so the history only shows the IP address of the author: 
>  The identity of "Michel Gauthier" may therefore be 
> learned by following this IP address.
> >
> > As a result of a search, I have found that this IP address is 
> associated with jefsey at jefsey.com.  For example, in this email 
> header (found at 
> http://ftp.zut.edu.pl/dsk0/ftp.ietf.org/ietf-mail-archive/idn/2008-03.mail  ):
> >
> > Received: from eurolab.net2.nerim.net ([]:4549 
> helo=asus.jefsey.com)
> >        by montage2.altserver.com with esmtp (Exim 4.68)
> >        (envelope-from <jefsey at jefsey.com>)
> >        id 1JWH2S-0003OI-1O; Mon, 03 Mar 2008 12:13:33 -0800
> >
> > (Similar headers may be found at 
> http://www.kde.ps.pl/mirrors/ftp.ietf.org/ietf-mail-archive/iucg/2009-08.mail 
> and http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/iucg/current/msg00002.html 
> among other places).
> >
> > Therefore it would appear that "Michel Gauthier" is Jefsey Morfin.
> >
> > That's enough for me.
> >
> > Greg Shatan
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: discuss-bounces at 1net.org [mailto:discuss-bounces at 1net.org] 
> On Behalf Of Brian E Carpenter
> > Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2014 5:00 PM
> > To: Seun Ojedeji
> > Cc: 1net; info at intgovforum.icann.org; Larry Strickling; 
> Ianatransition at Icann. Org; IUCG at ietf.org; agora at dnsa.org
> > Subject: Re: [discuss] [IANAtransition] VGN dynamic coalition and 
> enhanced cooperation
> >
> > On 20/04/2014 05:26, Seun Ojedeji wrote:
> >> I am quite puzzled here,
> >
> > The puzzle is easily solved, when you observe that this piece of 
> drivel came via JFC's server, exactly like the drivel from "Michel Gauthier":
> >
> > Received: from ([]:29325
> >        helo=MORFIN-PC.mail.jefsey.com)
> >        by host.presenceweb.org with esmtpa (Exim 4.82)
> >        (envelope-from <alliance at fsp4.net>)
> >        id 1WbYZ9-00028W-KB; Sat, 19 Apr 2014 09:56:36 -0700
> > X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version
> >
> > Personally I will now add "mg at telepresse.com" and 
> "alliance at fsp4.net" to my filters. It's gone from funny to annoying.
> >
> >    Brian
> >
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