[discuss] Artificial conflation of issues not helpful. [Was: Digest, Vol 3, Issue 67]

Thu Feb 20 00:11:53 UTC 2014

Milton,

quoting your blog entry's last sentence, "Domestic institutional reform in
the US may not be enough."

That domestic institutional reform as a pending task is part of the tail
that is wagging the dog. Shifting away from it to the Sao Paulo
get-together, merrily kicking the ICANN football around "because it's
there", winding endless yarns around WSIS, etc. is only delaying a
conversation that people like you and your government should have started
long ago. The world is watching and waiting for those like you in the US
who think this needs fixing to hold the bull by the horns without
ricocheting around. Non-USians may have ideas but no standing to undertake
it.

That would signal another, maybe productive, way to slice "Prolem no. 1"
into parts that can lead to a solution.

Yours,

Alejandro Pisanty

On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 3:49 PM, Milton L Mueller <mueller at syr.edu> wrote:

>  Funny, I just blogged about this relationship:
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> http://www.internetgovernance.org/2014/02/19/do-the-nsa-revelations-have-anything-to-do-with-internet-governance/
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> --MM
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> *From:* discuss-bounces at 1net.org [mailto:discuss-bounces at 1net.org] *On
> Behalf Of *Dominique Lacroix
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 19, 2014 3:24 PM
> *To:* discuss at 1net.org
> *Subject:* Re: [discuss] Artificial conflation of issues not helpful.
> [Was: Digest, Vol 3, Issue 67]
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> Le 19/02/14 20:55, George Sadowsky a écrit :
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> In particular, I would assert that the real link between the NSA revelations and technical management of the root is the perception that both involve the same country, the USA.  I would claim that there is no technical linkage between the two.  Those that believe there is such a linkage have the obligation to describe in detail, with evidence, exactly what they believe that linkage is.
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> There is also a perception that ICANN and therefore the IANA function being located in the USA have given the NSA an advantage in being able to carry out their various surveillance activities.  I asset that this is not true. Those that believe there is such a linkage have the obligation to describe in detail, with evidence, exactly what they believe that linkage is.
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>  Dear George and Shatan,
> I usually don't share all Jefsey's visions (cause either I cannot
> understand them or I have no time enough to read their abstracts). But on
> this point I fear YOU have to give the world some evidence. Otherwise you
> could appear as trying to reverse the burden of proof.
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> The Patriot Act + NSA revelations ARE evidences for the whole world.
> That is the very sad and tricky situation we have to face.
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> @+, best, Dominique
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