[discuss] discuss Digest, Vol 3, Issue 67

Marilyn Cade marilynscade at hotmail.com
Thu Feb 20 22:09:51 UTC 2014

Ah, an informed post on this issue! I do applaud and thank those with expertise who are trying to help to explain more factually some of the underlying issues.  

Thanks, Don. Very helpful and clarifying post. 

Marilyn Cade

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> On Feb 19, 2014, at 1:24 AM, "Don Blumenthal" <dblumenthal at pir.org> wrote:
> Assuming that ICE refers to US Immigration and Customs Enforcement,
> domain-related court orders that it has obtained from judges generally
> contain redirects at the name server level. Neither they nor any other LE
> that I¹m aware of ³uses the root² in enforcement actions. Even the well
> renowned US SOPA legislation that went nowhere wouldn¹t have provided that
> authority. I¹m happy to provide more details based on my experience in US
> Internet LE and the private side.
> If I¹m wrong about what ICE means, ignore this message.
> Don 
>> On 2/18/14, 7:12 PM, "Jefsey" <jefsey at jefsey.com> wrote:
>> At 00:36 19/02/2014, Phil Corwin wrote:
>>> I have no firm personal view as to whether DOC/NTIA could lawfully
>>> proceed as you suggest it might in 2015 in the absence of
>>> authorizing legislation. However, as a political matter, that
>>> Executive department and subsidiary agency might well wish to have
>>> the cover of some type of Congressional backing before taking such a
>>> step given the potential consequences.
>> Hi! Phil,
>> Might be interesting to dig into the way ICE uses the root to "close"
>> some domain names. And what is the legislation or jurisprudence if
>> any to use ORSN to access them.
>> jfc 
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