[discuss] governments and rule of law (was: Possible approaches to solving...)

Joe Alhadeff joseph.alhadeff at oracle.com
Mon Feb 24 14:44:27 UTC 2014

This is a very interesting and thought provoking thread.  As we have seen in the 1Net process there is fragmentation within and across stakeholders in terms of views, interests and claimed representation.  Can one say that there is a uniform IUser or @large interest that can accurately be expressed?  How are those positions validated to be in the interest of the community?  It sounds like we may be replacing governments and organizations as stewards with yet another representation that may or may not accurately reflect the views of the whole especially when most of the "whole" would not express needs in terms of root servers and technical parameters but rather I want access when and where I need it to accomplish varying tasks with few surprises in terms of cost or intrusion and some faith in oversight and accountability as executed by appropriate bodies.


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From: jefsey at jefsey.com
To: jcurran at istaff.org, steve at shinkuro.com
Cc: discuss at 1net.org
Sent: Monday, February 24, 2014 9:34:16 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: [discuss] governments and rule of law (was: Possible	approaches	to solving...)

At 14:48 24/02/2014, John Curran wrote:
>ICANN community have the (nearly) final say in what policy is in its 
>best interests,

I am sorry, John, but I am interested in the IUser, user @large and 
would be user community interests. Then in their common interests 
represented by their governments. And then in their collective 
industrial interests represented by their private sector.

I would be interested in an ICANN document clearly showing these 
interests and those of the "ICANN community" and how they intersect. 
I feel that this is the main relational problem of ICANN: to show how 
it serves the civil society, private sector and Governments when 
compared to the possible alternatives, once removed the history 
hysteresis (globalization implies changes that will necessarily 
question this hysteresis).

The HomeRoot experimentation project is also to help evaluating the 
cons and the pros of a centralized coordination, a semi-distributed 
(VGNICS) and a grassroots system (HomeRoot) in terms of usage quality 
effilience, constaints, surety, security, response time, power 
supply, memory space, accuracy, costs. For example, there is no doubt 
that an HomeRoot system addresses many African, islands and nomad 
users' needs.


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