[discuss] IPv6 Deployment and IG

Joe Alhadeff joseph.alhadeff at oracle.com
Thu Jan 2 14:25:58 UTC 2014

We should recall that early in the deployment of IPv6 some government tax authorities were very interested in pushing full geographic allocation to facilitate tax collection for online transactions.  There was a somewhat intense argument about the need to develop Internet architecture for Internet purposes and not tax collection or other extraneous purposes.  At that time there were few formal stakeholder consultation processes (OECD was already an exception, but had not included civil society in a formalized sense yet) and the discussion was more difficult to engage in for stakeholders.  

We shouldn't take for granted the progress that has been made in consultation processes and we should work collectively to protect these gains...  



-----Original Message-----
From: Adiel Akplogan [mailto:adiel at afrinic.net] 
Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2014 8:56 AM
To: Nii Narku Quaynor
Cc: discuss at 1net.org
Subject: Re: [discuss] IPv6 Deployment and IG

On 2013-12-28, at 24:53 AM, Nii Narku Quaynor <quaynor at ghana.com> wrote:

> Hi Ken
> Afrinic allocates to LIRs or operators. There no legacy NIRs in the 
> region

and there is currently no NIR policy in AFRINIC service region. 

- a.

> On Dec 27, 2013, at 20:33, Ken Stubbs <kstubbs at afilias.info> wrote:
>> Pardon my ignorance Nii but,
>> Why  ?
>> Ken
>> On 12/27/2013 3:20 PM, Nii Narku Quaynor wrote:
>>> Milton,
>>> There are no NIRs in Africa
>>> Nii
>>> On Dec 27, 2013, at 19:15, Milton L Mueller <mueller at syr.edu> wrote:
>>>>> All of which ignores the fact that IP addresses are allocated, 
>>>>> routed, and used topologically, not geographically. Which means 
>>>>> that all discussion of them in terms of physical geography and 
>>>>> national boundaries is completely pointless.
>>>> From the standpoint of pure technical efficiency, perhaps so. But then you need to explain to me why we have a growing number of NIRs in Asia and Africa (including Japan) and I why I spent several months this year trying to prevent the US DEA and DoJ from imposing jurisdictional boundaries on ARIN allocations on the basis of a "know your customer" rationale. To me the explanation seems obvious; if a political authority can align allocation and assignment authority with their own jurisdiction then they have more power over Internet uses and users.
>>>> --MM
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