[discuss] ICANN policy and "Internet Governance"

[Nick Ashton-Hart]

Quite a few do look at the larger context. I did a CircleID on that exactly last month and I'm far from the only person who has.


Jorge Amodio <jmamodio at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Jan 3, 2014, at 7:47 AM, Avri Doria <avri at acm.org> wrote:
>> 
>>> On 03-Jan-14 03:11, Jorge Amodio wrote:
>>> 
>>> One more comment
>>>> 
>>>> we are doing for ourselves as a multistakeholder organization. The
>NSA fiasco makes doing ICANN's job harder.  That makes it an Internet
>governance, for want of a better term, issue.
>>> 
>>> Why are we focusing so much on the NSA fiasco ? What about the China
>fiasco, the Russia fiasco, the Turkey fiasco, the India fiasco, the
>Tunis fiasco, and so on ?
>> 
>> I can think of 2 reasons:
>> 
>> - We in the US are asking people to trust that we are a benign
>steward, a trusted neutral broker for the Internet.  I have not heard
>of the others you mention do that.
>
>We learned long time ago that the Indians are the bad guys and the
>cowboys good and always win, and they keep the bounty and the girl,
>nothing new here. That the Indians are not screaming that they are also
>the good guys doesn't make it a reason to just focus on the cowboys. If
>we want to tackle this problem we should not focus on just snowdenia.
>
>> - We in the US have been holier than though about our goodness.
>
>That's always by default, enforced by the US having bigger guns and in
>higher quantity.
>
>> Oh, and a third reason: because it was such a pervasive attack on
>global human rights.  None of the other examples have that scope - this
>was a pivotal event, despite what we may have known, or not known,
>about governments and the way they behave.
>
>So persecution and incarceration of people with a dissenting opinion in
>some of those countries are not as important in terms of human rights
>as snoopy sniffing traffic.
>
>What I meant with my comment is that we should work on this across the
>board, I'm not ignoring the scope and pervasiveness but we can't just
>focus on one event pivotal or not.
>
>-Jorge
>
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