[discuss] Funding for developing economies as an Ig policy issue? was Re:[ ] Time to be ...

Mathieu Weill mathieu.weill at afnic.fr
Tue Jan 7 17:09:47 UTC 2014

Thanks Louis for raising this topic about developing economies.

While not per se a governance issue, the gap between economies has an 
influence on participation in Internet governance. So the issues are 

With regards to the benefits of being connected, a good illustration is 
this study about the impact of Internet exchange points in Nigeria and 
Kenya commissioned by ISOC.


Le 07/01/2014 10:38, Mawaki Chango a écrit :
> On Tue, Jan 7, 2014 at 8:53 AM, Nick Ashton-Hart <nashton at ccianet.org 
> <mailto:nashton at ccianet.org>> wrote:
>     I would add that beyond their participation in meetings I'm
>     particularly interested in how they get the benefits of actually
>     being connected.
> So am I. To my recollection a (preliminary) study came out during the 
> WCIT process in December 2012 on the topic of the economic impact of 
> the internet in Africa. As I recall, it seemed to me hastily put 
> together probably triggered by that window of opportunity and for the 
> purposes of political campaign. A few months ago I came across some ad 
> by the Economic Commission for Africa searching for a consultant to 
> research about the same topic. I'm not sure where they are at, but 
> would be interested in the outcome and any follow-up recommendations.
> I would have a word of caution about the idea that ICANN should 
> partner with existing organizations working on development issues in 
> the concerned regions --not that I think such partnership wouldn't be 
> a good thing to do. Provided it is not intended to do what those 
> organizations are already working on, but to closely focus 
> Internet-related (and maybe even Internet-native) issues. I would 
> rather see any such funding go to research and to promoting 
> Internet-based entrepreneurship (including providing funding support 
> to start-ups in ways that fill the gap left by the lack of venture and 
> angel capitalists in these regions, but also complement the typical 
> approach of the angel capital market with, say, a higher level of 
> tolerance for experimentation given the relative level of uncertainty 
> in our market mechanisms.) In any case we still need some serious 
> research and evidence to clearly see (through) what we are or are 
> supposed to be celebrating.
> Mawaki
>     It seems to me that objective is also not being realised - note
>     the recent ITU statistics that the 40 countries who are doing the
>     least-well on ICT usage and adoption and the 25% of the world
>     population who live in them are falling behind vis a vis the
>     digital divide, not catching up.
>     On 6 Jan 2014, at 18:17, Louis Pouzin (well) <pouzin at well.com
>     <mailto:pouzin at well.com>> wrote:
>>     Helping financially *Less Developed Countries *(LDC) has been a
>>     recurring topic since early WSIS meetings. However governments
>>     and well funded institutions have heroically snowed all debates
>>     initiated on the subject.
>>     I published a few times an article,
>>     *
>>     http://www.open-root.eu/about-open-root/news/financing-ldcs-in-the-wsis-process
>>     A *french version *is available at
>>     http://www.eurolinc.eu/spip.php?article76
>>     Good luck LDCs
>>     Louis
>>     - - -
>>     On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 11:19 PM, Michel Gauthier
>>     <mg at telepresse.com <mailto:mg at telepresse.com>> wrote:
>>         Dear Steve,
>>         Is this really decent to talk of $100MM for the management of
>>         a small Excell table?
>>         Just because a lawyer and a few politcians managed a
>>         monopolistic scarcity instead of an open global competition?
>>         There are billions of people around the world who are
>>         identified by their name and forename. Without paying a tax
>>         to a costly ASCII non-profit for that. What is the ICANN
>>         proposition to change that? Free life domain names for every
>>         non-commercial person? Non-profit gTLD? ICANN ICP-3
>>         multi-root competition?
>>         MG
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