[discuss] [bestbits] Fwd: Heads up on Brazil meeting preparation

[Lee W McKnight]

Parminder,

"simple e-lists being suddenly invited to co-own and co-shape global meetings" has been happening since there's been e-lists.

Creating a virtual community can be a big thing, a little thing, or nothing.

In the 1net case, what exactly 'it' is may be unclear still for some time as the clock unwinds to and beyond the Brazil meeting.

Speaking as one not yet on the list, and hence not in the latest virtual club, I too am suspicious of a club that would have me. ; )

Lee




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Subject: Re: [discuss] [bestbits] Fwd: Heads up on Brazil meeting preparation


On Wednesday 08 January 2014 05:34 PM, Seun Ojedeji wrote:
On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 12:36 PM, Louis Pouzin (well) <pouzin at well.com<mailto:pouzin at well.com>> wrote:
It's crystal clear in the beginning of Adiel's report. The meeting was between LOG and ICANN.

Hmm....i think that may need to be reworded Louis as i don't think 1NET=ICANN  but my understanding is that 1NET=Various Stakeholders (including ICANN). So i expect the meeting was between LOG and 1NET

I remember John Curran, who was at the Monte Video meeting where 1Net idea arose, saying quite recently on this list something to the effect that 1Net is yet just an e- discussion space, and it can become what its steering committee (which hasnt met yet) may want it to become...

I havent seen simple e-lists being suddenly invited to co-own and co-shape global meetings. Have you? Does it not appear strange. And for getting such an invitation to come into the centre of Brazil meeting hosting space, one has to really push hard, and have a lot of power. (I know also because some well established civil society groups tried - together - to enter this 'hosting space' and got no response.).. These are power games... 1Net itself is hardly in a position to do the pushing... So whoever has the power and is using it to come to the centre of Brazil meeting hosting space is 1Net at the moment. Follows logically, whether we like it or not.

parminder


I like to be corrected if otherwise?

Cheers!
Louis
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On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 7:12 AM, parminder <parminder at itforchange.net<mailto:parminder at itforchange.net>> wrote:
Hi Hartmut,

[...]

One would greatly prefer that we know who is running the show, and on what legitimacies....

This was supposed to an open, public meeting with globally shared ownership and all such things....

Thanks, parminder


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Date: Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 2:03 PM
Subject: [discuss] Heads up on Brazil meeting preparation
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Hello all,

I have been invited (for /1Net) to attend a status update meeting between the representatives of the Brazil meeting's LOG and ICANN last Friday. Here are some key points discussed during the meeting:

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