[discuss] [governance] [bestbits] Fwd: Heads up on Brazil meeting preparation

Thu Jan 9 06:29:38 UTC 2014

Indeed well analyzed, and not just because I am French :-).
 How can we channel such lucidity in getting a real covenant about Internet?
Divina

Le 08/01/14 19:28, « massit follea » <f.massit at orange.fr> a écrit :

> +1
> FMF
> 
> Le 8 janv. 14 à 16:15, Louis Pouzin (well) a écrit :
> 
>> Superb, and true.
>> Louis
>> - - -
>>>  
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 3:14 PM, Jean-Christophe NOTHIAS I The Global Journal
>>> <jc.nothias at theglobaljournal.net> wrote:
>>>  
>>>> Indeed, indeed, Parminder!
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> The 1net idea was brought to a I-stars meeting after the NSA scandal and
>>>> the 'trust' crisis/issue over the current asymmetric domination. 1net is an
>>>> ICANN idea and since then has been pushed by ICANN. It is amusing to note
>>>> that thanks to the Montevideo statement, the existence of these meetings
>>>> has now become a public information - a very-behind-close-doors-meetings!!
>>>> The I-stars meetings were not publicized before the NSA scandal pressures
>>>> the I-stars. "We didn't want to attract attention!! apologized the 11 CEOs
>>>> part of the I-stars, all them putting their signature at the bottom line of
>>>> the Montevideo statement ( in reaction to the crisis!). They survived WCIT
>>>> but not Snowden.
>>>>  
>>>> Lynn Saint Amour, ISOC CEO in 2013, admitted in a recorded meeting during
>>>> last ICANN 48 that she and other I-stars CEOs were first reluctant to the
>>>> 1net idea. Would 1net be a competitor to ISOC and its chapters if you only
>>>> think of ISOC's view of 1net? Other reasons were discussed.
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> It is crystal clear to any political advisor with some experience that 1net
>>>> is a political extravaganza set to bring some sort of legitimacy to ICANN
>>>> and its plan to bake an international dressing and menu, in order to keep
>>>> as much as possible the asymmetry acceptable. It is also a bright move to
>>>> try to bring back as many civil society voices under a I-stars
>>>> overview/control. But some elements of the international civil society are
>>>> not governable from the US, (when they exist and wherever they are
>>>> located). 1net has also a dilution effect over the IGF, which is still a UN
>>>> 'thing'. 1net would take away from the IGF some of its relevance - even
>>>> though one can admit that the IGF was stalling. The bestbit, the 1net, the
>>>> High Level Panel by the ICANN... all of that converge to take the IGF down
>>>> to a not-able venue - We the French have made a word with the not-able, les
>>>> notables, the ones having the impression that they are the important guys
>>>> around. No one better than a notable can keep a status quo safe. Notables
>>>> are usually conservatives (of their status and advantages) by nature. A
>>>> little bit like the I-stars and their aficionados.
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> ISOC could have been the natural 1net but is too much of a US entity, even
>>>> though it has offices around the world. The 1net idea is to shift civil
>>>> society and other Internet actors under an ICANN umbrella, an umbrella
>>>> being revamped as some sort of International organization (IO). Even though
>>>> it would be a fake IO, this new ICANN would be an embarrassment to any
>>>> initiative coming from or endorsed by a multilateral, or international law
>>>> related, oriented body.
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> The I-stars are defending themselves from trying to lower the IGF capacity.
>>>> They have recently stated that, indeed, IGF deserves more funds, and that
>>>> the I-stars should think about  giving to the IGF. This UN-WSIS venue is
>>>> today functioning with a miserable budget, even in comparison to the ICANN
>>>> communication budget, or the ISOC large revenues thank to PIR and its
>>>> selling of domains with .net, .org.... With such a poor financial
>>>> condition, the IGF has to turn to sometime evil government willing to show
>>>> some good face on the occasion by hosting the IGF meeting. Azerbaijan and
>>>> others have been financially correct and grata. After all, isn't it fair to
>>>> associate the UN with rogue states looking for friends. And make sure that
>>>> everyone confuses the UN with them.
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> Nothing could be more effective than providing notables with some more $ as
>>>> they enjoy could table, and days of peace in remote location whether in
>>>> California, Bali or Argentina to meet, discuss and blunder. We all remember
>>>> that a few notables agreed to be paid for their personal views over IG when
>>>> attending the London High level panel meeting set by the ICANN few weeks
>>>> ago. What was the budget on this one? 50 guests... Maybe the IGF would be
>>>> happy to get this money to investigate more about the financial practice
>>>> over inter-connected networks and data carriers, providers and miners. Or
>>>> launch an honest survey of ideas to improve IG practice.
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> So, will the ICANN-1net plan work out? Will it be said: "Tout va bien
>>>> madame la marquise"?
>>>> 
>>>> It is not hard to imagine that this will bring legitimate reactions from
>>>> many 'stakeholders'. Outside of 1net. Outside of ICANN et al.
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> Brazil might already have lost its 'time'. Brazil and others.
>>>> 
>>>> Enough will soon be enough
>>>> 
>>>> JC
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>>  __________________________
>>>>  
>>>>  Jean-Christophe Nothias
>>>> jc.nothias at theglobaljournal.net
>>>>  
>>>>  @jc_nothias
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>>   
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