[discuss] Cross posting WAS Re: [governance] [bestbits] Fwd: Heads up on Brazil meeting preparation

Nick Ashton-Hart nashton at ccianet.org
Thu Jan 9 10:17:58 UTC 2014

Dear all,

May I request that the cross posting be discontinued? I am getting three copies of an increasing proportion of /1net, BestBits and IGC list traffic and I know I am far from alone.

Michel Gauthier <mg at telepresse.com> wrote:
>At 03:46 09/01/2014, John Curran wrote:
>>You are conflating what are otherwise distinct events - for example, 
>>ARIN is not
>>a signatory to OpenStand; it is orthogonal (not a basis or 
>>precondition) of the
>>Montevideo Statement on the Future of Internet Cooperation.
>John .....
>please let us know who is not endorsing the ISOC OpenStand among the 
>"Lynn and the 11 CEOs"?
>Please do not play with the words. There are five signatorees, then 
>the endorsers and the supporters. The ARIN's position in itself is of 
>no particular importance. What is discussed here is the ISOC/ICANN 
>strategy IRT the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Group_of_77 position 
>over the mutual control of the consolidation of the Internet
>May I remind you that:
>- "ISOC is a non-profit organization founded in 1992 to provide 
>*leadership* in Internet-related standards, education, and policy. It 
>is dedicated to ensuring the open development, evolution and use of 
>the Internet for the benefit of people throughout the world."
>- WCIT has shown that the disagreement is between the notions of 
>"leadership" (ISOC lead) and "MS-ship" (people centered). Sao Paulo 
>should help clarfying it as a societal and global evolution of which 
>the framework is to be defined.
>However, the ISOC leadership and BRICS have focussed on the internet 
>only forgetting the "layer six" issues. As long as they were only 
>perceived as JEDI's ("Jefsey Morfin Disciple's" according to Martin 
>Dürst) "idée fixe", its was an epiphenomena. Now DARPA/CGC is a 
>response to IAB's RFC 3869 that confirms the complexity of the 
>"missing layer" file. Because the software development capacity of 
>Russia, China, India, Brazil at least equals the US and Europe one.
>discuss mailing list
>discuss at 1net.org

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