[discuss] FW: [I-coordination] on "identifying principles"

Mon Jan 13 11:32:06 UTC 2014

Dear All,

The Human Rights Guidelines for Internet Service
Providers<http://www.coe.int/t/informationsociety/documents/HRguidelines_ISP_en.pdf>,
developed by the Council of Europe and EuroISPA, the association of
European ISPs, is another document that should be considered for our list
of existing HR principles.

Although it dates from 2008, it is useful as it spells out specific
recommendations for ISPs in line with the CoE human rights acquis as it
applies to the Internet.

Matthias

On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 4:49 AM, michael gurstein <gurstein at gmail.com>wrote:

> *From:* michael gurstein [mailto:gurstein at gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, December 19, 2013 10:45 AM
> *To:* 'I-coordination at nro.net'; governance at lists.igcaucus.org; bestbits
> *Subject:* RE: [I-coordination] on "identifying principles"
>
>
>
> Carolina and all,
>
>
>
> I am attaching a “Declaration of Principles” from the Community
> Informatics community “An Internet for the Common Good: *Engagement,
> Empowerment, and Justice for All”. *
>
>
>
> An earlier version of this was accepted by consensus by the larger Community
> Informatics community<http://vancouvercommunity.net/lists/info/ciresearchers>(consisting of both the general email list and specialized lists for
> Canada <http://vancouvercommunity.net/lists/info/cracin-canada>, Southern
> Africa <http://vancouvercommunity.net/lists/info/ci-research-sa>, Older
> Persons, <http://vancouvercommunity.net/lists/info/ci-for-older-persons>and Indigenous
> peoples <ci-indigenous at lists.knet.ca> as well as the Editorial Board of
> the Journal of Community Informatics<http://ci-journal.net/index.php/ciej/about/editorialTeam>).
> The current version was produced by a team that included a leading ICT
> practitioner from Mozambique, a Director of a grassroots Community
> Informatics initiative in India working with rural women, a practitioner
> working with marginalized youth in the barrios of Chicago, a leading
> researcher in the use of ICTs by Indigenous Peoples, a former chair of the
> Computer Professionals for Social Responsibility and two members of the
> technical community with interests in the community based use of ICTs.
>
>
>
> We expect a consensus agreement on this version within the next 48 hours
> along with endorsements.
>
>
>
> While there is some overlap with the principles that you have documented
> from other sources we would ask that those that have not elsewhere been
> identified be added to your listings and including matters of how
> addressing matters concerning the distribution of benefits of the use ICTs
> and the Internet.
>
>
>
> With best wishes,
>
>
>
> Mike
>
>
>
> *From:* i-coordination-bounces at nro.net [
> mailto:i-coordination-bounces at nro.net <i-coordination-bounces at nro.net>] *On
> Behalf Of *Carolina Rossini
> *Sent:* Thursday, December 19, 2013 1:28 AM
> *To:* Nick Ashton-Hart
> *Cc:* I-coordination at nro.net
> *Subject:* [I-coordination] on "identifying principles"
>
>
>
> here I attach some work that can serve as a background regarding the piece
> of debate around principles (see Bill and Nick below)
>
> we classified everything out there we could find from every stakeholder
>
> they are in different docs to make it easier to print
>
> C
>
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 12:45 PM, Nick Ashton-Hart <nashton at ccianet.org>
> wrote:
>
> *To Bill’s point in the first instance it would be useful to identify
> those principles that exist to date and their source and scope. Perhaps
> 1net could host a wiki environ*ment or the like where those with
> knowledge of one or more could get a list together?
>
>
>
> On 17 Dec 2013, at 18:34, William Drake <william.drake at uzh.ch> wrote:
>
>
>
> Hi George
>
> On Dec 17, 2013, at 6:24 PM, George Sadowsky <george.sadowsky at gmail.com>
> wrote:
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>
>
> Bill,
>
>
>
> You say: "Do we really have nothing more important to be doing here at
> this point than redefining the wheel as just a round thingy?  I thought
> this list was supposed to be for coordination of multistakeholder dialogue
> on Sao Paulo and beyond, but it seems to alternate between being a troll
> paradise and the site of a lot of meandering debates on points that are
> generally being addressed more systematically elsewhere.  Or am I alone in
> this perception?"
>
>
>
> I agree that we need to address points systematically.  Can you provide a
> list of systematic points (dare we call them issues?) that it would, in
> your view, be useful to discuss?
>
>
>
> Well, why not start with the question of principles?  The initiators of
> the SP meeting have been saying from the outset they’d like to have a sort
> of multistakeholder declaration of principles.  Presumably it’d be helpful
> if 1net participants were to provide some input on this, and presumably
> we’d like it to be more than just nice fluffy words.  Why not discuss the
> range of options to make this a useful exercise, and see where there’s
> cross-stakeholder consensus and where there’s not?  It’s something concrete
> that needs to be done, and they want input by 1 March.
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
>
>
> Bill
>
> _______________________________________________
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> --
>
> *Carolina Rossini*
>
> *Project Director, Latin America Resource Center*
>
> Open Technology Institute
>
> *New America Foundation*
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