[discuss] Roadmap for globalizing IANA

Tue Mar 4 16:33:33 UTC 2014

McTim,

You clearly do not hear the siren call of Vignic-speak.  Nor do the vast majority of us….  Perhaps it is too high-pitched.

Greg Shatan

From: discuss-bounces at 1net.org [mailto:discuss-bounces at 1net.org] On Behalf Of McTim
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 7:17 AM
To: Elisabeth Blanconil
Cc: jefsey at jfsey.com; 1 Net List
Subject: Re: [discuss] Roadmap for globalizing IANA

Hi,

On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 9:42 PM, Elisabeth Blanconil <info at vgnic.org<mailto:info at vgnic.org>> wrote:
At 02:45 04/03/2014, nathalie coupet wrote:

Could you, jefsey, Hebe, and others, please address the issue of leakage. How could you prevent it (do you want to prevent it)?

As David Conrad mentions it, the leakage is a pollution of DNS buffers by a different vision of the name space. This would occur in the top zone if there were two different identical TLDs, the zones of which would be different, documented by two different root server systems of thee same class.

Please note that:
* The ICANN root is authoritative: the NTIA decides which servers are to be listed for the different TLDs.

While the first part of the above is correct, the second part is not.  TLD Registry Operators decide this.

* The ORSN root is non-authoritative: it reports the configuration authoritatively indicated by the TLD Managers.

This is the difference between monarchy and polycracy (where the common decisions emerge from the diversity of individual authoritative decisions which are taken by subsidiarity - i.e. by the zone managers, in an MS approach). In a non-attacked class, leaks can only happen if an authoritative root administrator decides the seizure of TLD. VGNICs reduce the risks from this happening.

I understand that others advocate a commercial oligarchy where the root would be voted by the registrars (i.e. people paying ICANN).

The DNS IETF model supports 65,365 roots, one for each class. The sole class that people discuss on this list is the "IN" ICANN/NTIA class. We call this attitude "the BUG", i.e. being unipolarly global.

The vast majority of us call it "Internet".

rgds,

McTim

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