[discuss] Failure of the Survey
joseph.alhadeff at oracle.com
Wed Mar 5 21:52:00 UTC 2014
Taking into account the skewed populations and participation will be the
On 3/5/2014 3:17 PM, kurt at kjpritz.com wrote:
> Paul Wilson's comment is good and raises the a similar issue for the
> entire 1net list of contributions.
> Many, many person-hours were contributed to creating the 1net email
> repository. There should be an equally significant investment made in
> capturing the input in a meaningful, neutral, comprehensive way. A
> serious effort should go into distilling the information and reporting
> such things as conclusions, key topics, and recommendations (whether
> they are supported, controversial, or disliked). The format of the
> report probably cannot be determined until some of the content is
> This task should be conducted independently and include some
> statistical vetting, taking into account skewed populations and
> participation. The analysis should be managed and done by people that
> were not part of the 1net process.
> From my reading, I think the survey was an attempt at this summary but
> the feedback indicated that it was neither comprehensive or neutral.
> Probably, there was not enough time to perform this work.
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: [discuss] Failure of the Survey
> From: Paul Wilson <pwilson at apnic.net <mailto:pwilson at apnic.net>>
> Date: Wed, March 05, 2014 6:56 am
> To: Adiel Akplogan <adiel at afrinic.net <mailto:adiel at afrinic.net>>
> Cc: "discuss at 1net.org <mailto:discuss at 1net.org> List"
> <discuss at 1net.org <mailto:discuss at 1net.org>>
> Dear Adiel,
> If 150 people opted in to the survey then I certainly hope that
> those efforts will not have been for nothing.
> I hope that the responses can be collated and synthesised in some
> way, and sent to NETmundial as a submission which is
> representative not of /1net, but rather as an attempt to represent
> the views of 150 /1net participants who chose to respond. In the
> time available I think this must be submitted in the name(s) of
> those who undertook the survey, with a disclaimer that their
> interpretation is not formally representative (except in terms of
> raw numerical analysis). Also in the interest of transparency I
> suggest that the raw data be published and submitted at the same
> time (with name and email id removed, along with any other
> identifying data which may have been entered).
> This is a nontrivial exercise but I hope that someone is generous
> enough with their time to make the effort. If not, then so be it;
> I cannot spend this time myself and don't demand that others
> should work for nothing.
> Thanks for your own efforts on this initiative.
> On 06/03/2014, at 12:36 AM, Adiel Akplogan <adiel at afrinic.net
> <mailto:adiel at afrinic.net>> wrote:
> > Dear all,
> > I think the massive disagreement on the process and this overall
> attempt to put something together for /1net as contribution to
> NETMundial by 8th March is loudly heard. I don't think the
> intention was to impose the content to anyone on the list. But
> mistakes and missteps happen. We need to learn from them to
> improve but we must move on. I can tell you that there won't be
> any submission to NETMundial from /1Net anymore and the survey
> will not serve any similar purpose either. A process for
> efficiently engage the wider list on activities like this and the
> interaction with the SC should be developed (with the input off
> all) and implement. However I will suggest that the comments
> received (from those nevertheless who took their time to fill in
> the survey) be used to advance some of the discussions on this
> list. There are already more than 150 people who took it (from
> information I have), with some interesting contributions and
> views. If there are other idea on how to use what will be
> collected, please share. Sorry for the failure of this particular
> process and please let close the discussion about it for now and
> move on to discuss the important matters in hand.
> > Thanks.
> > - a.
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