[discuss] Failure of the Survey

joseph alhadeff joseph.alhadeff at oracle.com
Wed Mar 5 21:52:00 UTC 2014

Taking into account the skewed populations and participation will be the 
On 3/5/2014 3:17 PM, kurt at kjpritz.com wrote:
> Paul Wilson's comment is good and raises the a similar issue for the 
> entire 1net list of contributions.
> Many, many person-hours were contributed to creating the 1net email 
> repository. There should be an equally significant investment made in 
> capturing the input in a meaningful, neutral, comprehensive way. A 
> serious effort should go into distilling the information and reporting 
> such things as conclusions, key topics, and recommendations (whether 
> they are supported, controversial, or disliked). The format of the 
> report probably cannot be determined until some of the content is 
> analysed.
> This task should be conducted independently and include some 
> statistical vetting, taking into account skewed populations and 
> participation. The analysis should be managed and done by people that 
> were not part of the 1net process.
> From my reading, I think the survey was an attempt at this summary but 
> the feedback indicated that it was neither comprehensive or neutral. 
> Probably, there was not enough time to perform this work.
> Kurt
>     -------- Original Message --------
>     Subject: Re: [discuss] Failure of the Survey
>     From: Paul Wilson <pwilson at apnic.net <mailto:pwilson at apnic.net>>
>     Date: Wed, March 05, 2014 6:56 am
>     To: Adiel Akplogan <adiel at afrinic.net <mailto:adiel at afrinic.net>>
>     Cc: "discuss at 1net.org <mailto:discuss at 1net.org> List"
>     <discuss at 1net.org <mailto:discuss at 1net.org>>
>     Dear Adiel,
>     If 150 people opted in to the survey then I certainly hope that
>     those efforts will not have been for nothing.
>     I hope that the responses can be collated and synthesised in some
>     way, and sent to NETmundial as a submission which is
>     representative not of /1net, but rather as an attempt to represent
>     the views of 150 /1net participants who chose to respond. In the
>     time available I think this must be submitted in the name(s) of
>     those who undertook the survey, with a disclaimer that their
>     interpretation is not formally representative (except in terms of
>     raw numerical analysis). Also in the interest of transparency I
>     suggest that the raw data be published and submitted at the same
>     time (with name and email id removed, along with any other
>     identifying data which may have been entered).
>     This is a nontrivial exercise but I hope that someone is generous
>     enough with their time to make the effort. If not, then so be it;
>     I cannot spend this time myself and don't demand that others
>     should work for nothing.
>     Thanks for your own efforts on this initiative.
>     Paul.
>     On 06/03/2014, at 12:36 AM, Adiel Akplogan <adiel at afrinic.net
>     <mailto:adiel at afrinic.net>> wrote:
>     > Dear all,
>     >
>     > I think the massive disagreement on the process and this overall
>     attempt to put something together for /1net as contribution to
>     NETMundial by 8th March is loudly heard. I don't think the
>     intention was to impose the content to anyone on the list. But
>     mistakes and missteps happen. We need to learn from them to
>     improve but we must move on. I can tell you that there won't be
>     any submission to NETMundial from /1Net anymore and the survey
>     will not serve any similar purpose either. A process for
>     efficiently engage the wider list on activities like this and the
>     interaction with the SC should be developed (with the input off
>     all) and implement. However I will suggest that the comments
>     received (from those nevertheless who took their time to fill in
>     the survey) be used to advance some of the discussions on this
>     list. There are already more than 150 people who took it (from
>     information I have), with some interesting contributions and
>     views. If there are other idea on how to use what will be
>     collected, please share. Sorry for the failure of this particular
>     process and please let close the discussion about it for now and
>     move on to discuss the important matters in hand.
>     >
>     > Thanks.
>     >
>     > - a.
>     > _______________________________________________
>     > discuss mailing list
>     > discuss at 1net.org <mailto:discuss at 1net.org>
>     > http://1net-mail.1net.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>     _______________________________________________
>     discuss mailing list
>     discuss at 1net.org <mailto:discuss at 1net.org>
>     http://1net-mail.1net.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
> _______________________________________________
> discuss mailing list
> discuss at 1net.org
> http://1net-mail.1net.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss

-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://1net-mail.1net.org/pipermail/discuss/attachments/20140305/9acbe892/attachment.html>

More information about the discuss mailing list