[discuss] [governance] U.S. to Give Up Oversight of Web Policymaking Body

Steve Crocker steve at shinkuro.com
Mon Mar 17 12:58:58 UTC 2014

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On Mar 17, 2014, at 8:37 AM, parminder <parminder at itforchange.net> wrote:

>> Le 16/03/14 21:28, Steve Crocker a écrit :
>>> [...] The question has already been asked and I’ll ask again.  What is the specific problem about being subject to US law?  As a general matter, rule of law is usually considered one of the U.S.’s very strongest qualities.[...]
> Steve
> As an American you are surely familiar with the slogan 'no taxation without representation'. That particular political expression is a sub set of 'no legislation without representation'. Or is it that these old fashioned ideas are no longer valid in the emerging brave new world, a post-democratic world.
> parminder
>> Dear Steve,
>> Thanks for your very interesting and clarifying technical comments.
>> But about this precise point of trust, a large part of the world could
>> consider that US law is good *for US*.
>> Because of a bunch of recent laws that extend extraterritoriality and
>> allow surveillance.
>> And because precisely, the high technical qualities require US lawyers...
>> And because the USA are far and strange for a lot of people.
>> And because other countries have also good laws.
>> All these points feed mistrust.
>> Exactly as a mirror: some US laws are fed of mistrust. And some
>> practices shew abuses.
>> Some of American great analysts themselves say it: the US have been
>> making mistakes at least since 10 years.
>> So, IMHO, the first question could be: how could we build again some trust?
>> I think that, perhaps, chosing one common goal could help. But in order
>> to operate, it must be a bit out of the Internet management game.
>> And it must include civil society. Not only negociators for trade treaties.
>> That was the sense of my group's contribution to NetMundial.
>> Sorry if I disturbed. I saw some light and I entered the house ;-)
>> @+, best regards, Dominique
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