[discuss] [governance] NTIA statement

Thu Mar 20 15:32:26 UTC 2014

Gentlemen,

Wherever else the statements in question are recorded, at this location:

http://www.internetcommerce.org/Secret_ICANN , the author says that:

"ICANN CEO Fadi Chehade told members of its GNSO Council in Buenos Aires 
this morning" [11/17/2013] ... "Chehade stressed in his remarks that the 
Brazil meeting was meant to supplement the Internet Governance Forum but 
would not produce decisions and would eschew topics (including, 
emphatically, surveillance issues raised by the Snowden NSA revelations), 
and be limited to discussing frameworks and principles."

I don't immediately find relevant transcripts, perhaps someone with better 
google fu...

John Springer

On Thu, 20 Mar 2014, Norbert Bollow wrote:

>> Norbert,
>>
>> I don't know what you are looking for here.
>>
>> Would you like to deny that he said that?
>>
>> Would you like to deny that a link to a video in which he said that
>> was posted?
>
> Hi McTim
>
> If Fadi indeed said what you claim he said then I want to be able to
> understand the context, quote his statement, and give the source.
>
> If on the other hand the assertion about Fadi having said this in a
> well-publicized video cannot be substantiated, I'd request that that
> assertion be withdrawn.
>
> Greetings,
> Norbert
>
>
>> If it wasn't on governance, perhaps it was on BB or 1net.
>>
>> I know he said it, I don't know if he meant it, I know that a link to
>> the video was posted and discussed.
>>
>> rgds,
>>
>> McTim
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 4:45 AM, Norbert Bollow <nb at bollow.ch> wrote:
>>> Hi McTim
>>>
>>> I've now looked in the archives of governance list... in your
>>> postings from that time period, there is precisely one link to a
>>> video of Fadi, this one:
>>>
>>> http://blog.planalto.gov.br/brasil-vai-sediar-encontro-mundial-sobre-governanca-da-internet-em-2014/
>>>
>>> That video does not contain any basis for your claim about Fadi
>>> having said something along the lines of "if surveillance were
>>> discussed, ICANN would pull out."
>>>
>>> Greetings,
>>> Norbert
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Am Wed, 19 Mar 2014 19:54:43 -0400
>>> schrieb McTim <mctimconsulting at gmail.com>:
>>>
>>>> We discussed this months ago on the governance list, it is in one
>>>> of the first video interviews
>>>> he made post NetMundial announcement.  I pointed at it then, you'll
>>>> have to look in the archives.
>>>>
>>>> rgds,
>>>>
>>>> McTim
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 6:15 PM, Norbert Bollow <nb at bollow.ch>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> McTim <mctimconsulting at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 1:16 AM, parminder
>>>>>> <parminder at itforchange.net> wrote:
>>>>>>> Agree, developments on the ICANN oversight issue do not
>>>>>>> constitute any real response to mass surveillance problem. And
>>>>>>> since NetMundial came out of a series of events directly
>>>>>>> connected to the mass surveillance problem, and which is the
>>>>>>> main reason the 'global community' invested into it, it is
>>>>>>> only fair to the people across the world that we have
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1. discussions on this issues
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You must recall Fadi saying in the very early days that if
>>>>>> surveillance were discussed, ICANN would pull out.
>>>>>
>>>>> When and where precisely did Fadi say this? Is there a recording
>>>>> and/or transcript available?
>>>>>
>>>>> Greetings,
>>>>> Norbert
>>>
>
>
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