[discuss] BNA article on Internet transition by US Ambassador Sepulveda and US DoC Assistant Secretary Strickling
joseph.alhadeff at oracle.com
Mon Mar 24 15:44:18 UTC 2014
On 3/24/2014 11:01 AM, Michel Gauthier wrote:
> At 03:51 24/03/2014, joseph alhadeff wrote:
>> How would you deal with the desire of a number of
>> governments/organizations to internationalize rather than globalize
>> Internet Governance without the controls that NTIA has placed on the
> Could you explain which control?
Perhaps conditions of transfer would be a better phrase than controls.
The need for it to be multistakeholder, continued stability etc.
> Some people feel that NTIA only defaulted its inability to address the
> situation on Steve Crocker. They took the word of ICANN claiming they
> were an "MS" (whatever it mey means, it is fashionable) proven expert
> to decide they were mature enough to take over the "Internet CARE"
> before it becomes too much an International burden. Don't you?
I only see them turning over the consultation process to ICANN to
convene the groups that may suggest the solution, I wasn't reading this
as making ICANN the solution to everything. And I think all of need to
have role in that process it cannot just be the various stakeholders
>> Seems to me that the sense of the list for a solution was what they
>> have offered...
I understand your mistrust of the system, but this is where I am
interested in seeing the game play our. I am usually the cynical one in
the room, but I admit that on on this list I'm a rosy optimist :-)
> My congratulation is about the evaluation that they found a way to
> transmit the MS (i.e. the lobbying organized oligarchy) hot-potatoe to
> the Congress. This way they will not have to acclimate the
> Telecommunications Act to the 2014 technology and neutrality, to
> create an FIC, to transform ISPs into common carrirers, etc. and to be
> laughed at for doing in the US, what they refused the world in Dubai.
>> You may consider this poker (or perhaps bridge in light of trump
>> cards..), but an immediate turnover to an as of yet
>> un-created/identified entity in a vacuum of process would have been
>> Russian Roulette with live rounds. I'd prefer to see how the hand
>> plays out.
> That is the beauty of the move. The internet will not be rulled by the
> White-House anymore (sorry JFC for your file), but by the US Judges.
> No vacuum. No need for Russians, Chineses, Europeans, Indians,
> South-Americans, Africans, etc. to be involved. The 1996 Act rules
> them all. Upto the Telcos now to carry the job with their Congress
> lobbied friends if they want to revise it
> They are now free to propose a new Datacommunications Deal, based upon
> second generation secure technology considering datagram transfers
> layer as a pure commodity they can delegate to the ITU if that pleases
> the world.
> M G
>> On 3/23/2014 7:09 PM, Michel Gauthier wrote:
>>> At 22:47 23/03/2014, John Curran wrote:
>>>> "Celebrating and Protecting the Global Internet"
>>> Brillant, indeed. Playing poker with internet control! Now they are
>>> This definitly addresses Vint Cerf's motivation. A job well done!
>>> We are going to see how they and the world address his second
>>> The NTIA is now free to play their trump cards.
>>> M G
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