[discuss] Ang.: Statement to present at World Internet Conference @ Wuzhen

Mon Nov 17 06:52:37 UTC 2014

I agree with Pindar, I would prefer to have the reference more substantial.

Anne-Marie

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Rubrik: [discuss] Statement to present at World Internet Conference @ Wuzhen
Datum: mån, nov 17, 2014 07:41

Well... looks arguable vague to me James. Which 'generally acceptable Internet principles' do you refer to?

Whereas April's NETmundial.br referenced earlier had a clear process and clear outcome captured in a public document.

p.

On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 2:29 PM, James Seng <james.seng at gmail.com<mailto:james.seng at gmail.com>> wrote:
I intent to modify the statement to:

"We, the undersigned, sincerely invite the leaders of the Chinese Internet Community to recognize the generally acceptable Internet principles as a base upon which to build for the Internet in China."

Would that be okay?

-James Seng

On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 2:27 PM, Pindar Wong <pindar.wong at gmail.com<mailto:pindar.wong at gmail.com>> wrote:
Thank you Dave.

For those of us in Hong Kong, your signature is especially meaningful.

p.

On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 2:25 PM, Dave Farber <dave at farber.net<mailto:dave at farber.net>> wrote:

Ok I'll sign it

On Nov 16, 2014 8:21 PM, "Pindar Wong" <pindar.wong at gmail.com<mailto:pindar.wong at gmail.com>> wrote:
It would be really good if you could also sign it Dave.

May I suggest then to change the text from

'to take the principles of NETmundial and to build upon them for the

Chinese Internet.'

to:

'to take the principles of NETmundial.br of April 2014<http://netmundial.br/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/NETmundial-Multistakeholder-Document.pdf> and to build upon them for the

Chinese Internet.'

This would avoid the 'confusingly similar' ;) NETmundial Initiative (NMI).

As far as the later, I believe the ISOC BoT had this so say yesterday:-

http://internetsociety.org/news/internet-society-statement-netmundial-initiative

p.

On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 8:29 AM, DAVID J. FARBER <farber at gmail.com<mailto:farber at gmail.com>> wrote:

If you add the term original bazilian netmundir rather than the ambiguioius just netmundie, I would like to sign it. I want to distinguished from the current suggestions .

On Nov 15, 2014 10:18 AM, "Christopher Wilkinson" <lists at christopherwilkinson.eu<mailto:lists at christopherwilkinson.eu>> wrote:
James:

You may add my name to the list of signatories:

Regards

Christopher Wilkinson 秦基辅

On 14 Nov 2014, at 07:51, Pindar Wong <pindar.wong at gmail.com<mailto:pindar.wong at gmail.com>> wrote:

Dear James,

Perhaps also consider that your recommendation be reworded as follows:-

"Specifically, we would like to highlight the following recommendations to:

Preserve Internet as an innovation environment based on open and distributed architecture;

Develop the Internet as an unified and unfragmented space based on end-to-end open Internet and adoption of IPv6;

Promote open standards made by rough consensus of the global technical community;

Uphold the security, stability and resilience of the Internet through strong cooperation among different stakeholders;'

Also perhaps this friendly amendment:-

'Support the evolving Internet governance ecosystem by building upon existing multi-stakeholder processes ensuring meaningful and accountable participation.'

m2c,

p.

On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 10:43 PM, James Seng <james.seng at gmail.com<mailto:james.seng at gmail.com>> wrote:
Yes, very good point. It should be Internet in China.

On Thursday, November 13, 2014, WUKnoben <wolf-ulrich.knoben at t-online.de<mailto:wolf-ulrich.knoben at t-online.de>> wrote:

With regards to para 3, I wonder whether making reference to the “Internet in China” instead of the “Chinese Internet” would make the global approach of the statement more clear.

Best regards

Wolf-Ulrich

From: James Seng
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Subject: [discuss] Statement to present at World Internet Conference @ Wuzhen

Dear all,

A couple of us have prepared a statement (as attached) to present at the World Internet Conference @ Wuzhen next week.

Any suggestions to the statements are welcome.

If you are willing to add your name to the statement, please drop me an email.

-James Seng

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