[discuss] Internet Governance in Latin America research project

Tue Apr 28 19:06:17 UTC 2015

Dear friends,

first, we have to understand, why we need "Internet Governance".

The fundamental definition is the virtual addressing princip. Based on 
this predefinition you create a request for centralism. And it is clear 
and honest, when we say, that at this moment the users of the Internet 
have nothing more to determine.

It is not a technical decision, that we have the virtual addressing 
methods. In the beginning of the Internet it was absolutly clear, that 
this system have to be private. Not like the streets between the local 
communities. And the access to this transport system have to stay under 
controll of private companies. And with and over this private companies 
the states can act.

In the answer of Sergio we find some links and tips to his environment. 
He, and all this people in this environment, have no interest for a free 
Internet with a free access to this transport system. He have his 
interest for a job in this institutions. And many people in this IG 
lists have the same basic interest.

Nnenna Nwakanma spoke clear about his principles and intentions. But not 
about, how we can realize it. Michael Gurstein, i am shure, have the 
same principles. But never he speak about the technical basics. Also 
Jean-François C. (Jefsey) Morfin have the same intention, motivation and 
principles like Nnenna. But he have more problems to understand the 
principles of the technical architecture.

If we create a technical architecture with the needs for centralized 
Governance, than we lost. Always. And we have to be clear, that this 
definition is not a technical request. The technical definitions always 
come from our Philosophy. From our systems of thought and values.

The universities and research centers of the states are oriented today 
on the money flow. And not on the development of technolgy for a easier 
life for the people. And also the most people in this environment are 
oriented to a high income. The consequence is the domination of military 
interests and private technical monopolisation. Because from this we 
have the biggest flow of money.

The only way to break through this blockades is the free technology. 
Free for all people to use. Free to develop in a global cooperation. 
Based on the principles: "global thinking, local doing" and "knowledge 
is always world heritage". On this way we come to: "the free association 
of free members".

If we want to create the real Internet, the interconnections of local 
networks, based on the autonomous local networks, based on the global IP 
address from the geografical position of the local networks, then we 
have to create our own free technology for this technical components. 
And the local capacity for building of this components in the 
local/regional environment.

The InterNet is only a transport system for digital data in packet form. 
No more. The communication is an act of the people self. This stupid 
propaganda to the internet we have to stop.

"A constant dripping wears the stone." I have to repeat this principles. 
Like you with your arguments for "Internet Governance". It is the same. 
Based on our different intentions, motivations and perspectives.

many greetings, willi
Cordoba, Argentina

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Betreff: Re: [bestbits] [discuss] Internet Governance in Latin America 
research project
Datum: Mon, 27 Apr 2015 09:24:17 -0300
Von: Sergio Salinas Porto <presidencia at internauta.org.ar>
An: Renata Aquino <raquino at gmail.com>
Kopie (CC): Anriette Esterhuysen <anriette at apc.org>, bestbits 
<bestbits at lists.bestbits.net>

Dear Renata and All:

I am surprised by the asseveration of Willi!

I am a member of an organization in Argentina -Internauta
Argentina-(Internauta, .org.ar) with high participation in public policy
intervention in the domestic and international sphere-we are part of the
foundation of LACRALO in ICANN, represent users Internet of Argentina in
that realm and personally I have had the privilege of carrying the voice
ALAC Member Ratings region in this area.

We spent some time ago by an electoral process in our organziación with
over 80,000 people participating with their vote on them.

We are part of FLUI (American Federation of internet users -
http://fuilatin.org), which I chair, made up of 12 organizations
representing Internet users in different countries of the region.

I hope this serves to learn more uin pco as users are organized in Latin
America.

Kind regards!

*Sergio Salinas Porto
Presidente Internauta Argentina
Asociación Argentina de Usuarios de Internet
<http://www.internauta.org.ar>/CTA <http://ctamdq.org.ar>
FLUI- Federación Latinoamericana de Usuarios de Internet
<http://www.fuilatin.org>
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Betreff: Re: Internet Governance in Latin America research project
Datum: Wed, 22 Apr 2015 12:58:33 -0300
Von: willi uebelherr <willi.uebelherr at gmail.com>
An: Renata Aquino <raquino at gmail.com>
Kopie (CC): governance at lists.igcaucus.org, bestbits at lists.bestbits.net, 
1net.org discuss <discuss at 1net.org>

Dear Renata,

it can be a good initiative. But my experience in Latin America show me, 
that there are no people to understand, what is "Internet Governance" 
and what we have to do to create a InterNet. Maybe, also the most people 
on this lists don't understand, what we have to do.

Connect to the different Ministerios in the different countries. Then
ypu can see and hear, that they don't understand the themes "tele
communication". But they create decisions. And this always based on the
external definitions.

In my last 4 years in Latin America never i found people with
connections to the international discussions about Internet. Never i
found people with a critical thinking to that, what we give the name
Internet.

In Latin America we have the organized consumerism. They use only the
technical systems from the external regions. But never they start to
understand the technical bases. And this we find also in NetMundial in
Brazil.

many greetings, willi
Cordoba, Argentina

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Betreff: [bestbits] Internet Governance in Latin America research project
Datum: Wed, 22 Apr 2015 11:18:28 -0300
Von: Renata Aquino <raquino at gmail.com>
An: governance at lists.igcaucus.org, bestbits at lists.bestbits.net

Hello

I’m working on a research Project on Internet Governance in Latin 
America currently building a list of organizations in this area. The 
goal of this Project is to identify paths for novices to participate in 
these discussions as well as hearing out experts who could point out the 
way to main issues in the region.

I’d be grateful if this group could help me pointing out resources,
organizations or professionals I may have missed.

The list I’ve gathered so far is below and please send comments to
raquino at gmail.com

The next phase of this Project will be to contact key professionals in 
the area of Internet Governance to do a series of interviews. If you’d 
like to participate or nominate someone for an interview please send me 
an email.

This is an ongoing Project with plans to present in the future in 
intenet governance events in Latin America.

Thanks for any help
Renata Aquino Ribeiro

Professor and researcher
IT Campus – Quixadá City
Federal University of Ceará – Brazil

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Main organizations involved in internet governance in Latin America

(Please sendo info about speakers for these to raquino at gmail.com)

* CITEL
URL: http://www.citel.oas.org

* eLAC
http://www.cepal.org/elac2015/default.asp

* LACIGF
http://www.lacigf.org

* LACNIC
http://www.lacnic.net

* LACTLD - Latin American and Caribbean ccTLDs Organization
http://www.lactld.org

* LatinoamerICANN
http://latinoamericann.org <http://latinoamericann.org/?q=node/1725>

* LACRALO
http://www.atlarge.icann.org/lacralo

* LAC IPv6 Task Force e FLIP
http://portalipv6.lacnic.net/en/flip6-and-lac-ipv6-tf/

* Internet Society - Mexico, El Salvador, Porto Rico, Costa Rica, 
Trinidad e Tobago, Venezuela, Colombia, Equador, Peru, Brasil, Bolivia, 
Paraguai, Uruguai, Argentina
http://www.internetsociety.org