[discuss] [WSF-Discuss] The decentralization of the DNS system

willi uebelherr willi.uebelherr at riseup.net
Wed Aug 26 19:08:00 UTC 2015

Dear friends,

this is the answer from Orsan Senalp on the WSF discuss list. I support 
this initiative. Orsan is very strong connected to different forums and 
lists. And we also. So, we can bring togehter all people, that are 
interested in this working space.

many greetings, willi

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Betreff: Re: [WSF-Discuss] The decentralization of the DNS system
Datum: Tue, 25 Aug 2015 16:25:18 +0200
Von: Örsan Şenalp <orsan1234 at gmail.com>
An: Discussion list about the WSF 
<worldsocialforum-discuss at openspaceforum.net>, 
networkedlabour at lists.contrast.org <networkedlabour at lists.contrast.org>, 
commoning <commoning at lists.wissensallmende.de>, P2P Foundation mailing 
list <p2p-foundation at lists.ourproject.org>, squares 
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<2011movements-fsm-wsf-discussion at lists.openfsm.net>

That would be great if we could laid down a work-learning-education
tool/space for instance towards internet un-governance conf., next ISF
and WSF 2016.

With this spirit did create a test space (on Networked Labour
University, under test space created for Global Square initiative, yet
not been activated). We could test this to see if it would help out in
rolling a collaborative work so that we could formulate and pool
concrete ideas, proposals, and undertake practices and projects, link
up with relavant groups and communities that share similar objective
of building and connecting peoples' Internet(s) bottom up.

The test space might be utilized as a collaborative open space, where
we could organise our selves by sharing and providing necessary basic
self-education materials, open access libraries, research, and form
study-circles to learn more on information and communication
technologies, networks and emancipatory complex systems in general and
related topics in collaboration:


Any one like to join and test can either open and account or register
as a guest here:


in solidarity,

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Betreff: Re: [WSF-Discuss] The decentralization of the DNS system
Datum: Tue, 25 Aug 2015 10:02:17 -0300
Von: willi uebelherr <willi.uebelherr at riseup.net>
An: WSF discuss <WorldSocialForum-Discuss at openspaceforum.net>

Dear friends,

I'm not sure if this formulation (bring in, bring out) is correct in
english. Mikael start to use it. In the history, the telecommunication
instances "bring in" the "internet" in the social environment. The
people was passiv, consumer.

We have to go the other direction. We create the Internet, how we need
it. We "bring out" the Internet from our social environments. This
means, we define and determine the archetectural and technical
principles based on our general social principles. And in our social
environment grow up our "networkedlabour", our distributed connection of
our Point to Point activity.

many greetings, willi

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Datum: Tue, 25 Aug 2015 09:42:42 -0300
Von: willi uebelherr <willi.uebelherr at riseup.net>
An: Discussion list about the WSF 
<worldsocialforum-discuss at openspaceforum.net>

Am 25/08/2015 um 02:33 schrieb Mikael Book:
 > Willi,
 > in my reply to you, I stressed that the internet has to be woven into
 > the fabric of the human societies. To this, you suggested a turnaround:
 > not to bring the internet into the societies, but the bring the
 > societies out of the internet.

Dear Mikael,

only this i have read. The rest never can be valuable, because the base
is wrong.

My answer: We bring out the Intenet from our social environment.

many greetings, willi

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