[discuss] are we dead yet? UNHLPDC

Marilyn Cade marilynscade at hotmail.com
Fri Jun 14 19:13:54 UTC 2019

I regret missing the Brookings Institute event/somehow an event in Washington, DC that I missed.

I have been studying the report and yes, we should all be promoting more discussion about the suggestions.

Marilyn Cade

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Thanks Ian for the email.

I read the report and participated in the Washington launch event with Vint Cerf, Amandeep Singh Gill and others at the Brookings Institution. ICANN was notably absent at the event. (even as I see myself as a accountable and representing only himself ICANN privateer:-D).

I agree with Ian that despite the private sector heavy panel and despite the fact that UN reports in general have not much real value, this one is different and deserves our attention and co-operation. What happens now is up to us. As became clear at the launch event, there is not much money to promote the report even less to follow it up. It seems that it is up to others to run with it.

I also seems to me that discussing the follow up to the report, and may do I dare say it, thinking about some follow up action, might be the nearest this list has come for a long time to its original purpose. ICANN can only benefit from it.

If others are interested, I am happy to participate constructively.


Klaus Stoll

On 6/14/2019 12:37 AM, ian.peter at ianpeter.com<mailto:ian.peter at ianpeter.com> wrote:
Hi everyone,

Last discussion here about whether to close this list suggested maybe we should wait and see whether we want to discuss the report of the UN High Level Panel on Digital Co-operation (UNHLPDC).

So its out now. My initial take (basically taken from another list) is  below.

Any comments from your reading of the documents?

There is a good short summary at http://nissaba.net/tldr/hlpdc-report/. But for those who want more, the full report and also a presentation summary are available from https://digitalcooperation.org.

I thought the report was quite insightful in places: while predictable in others. It contains a number of structural recommendations to deal with issues which are not being addressed well by current structures: and also a suggested timetable to make sure they are addressed. As a UN Report, it has credibility: it also contains a strong commitment to multi stakeholder processes, while stressing that only governments can make binding laws in this area.

I particularly like their recommendation 3C on lethal autonomous weapons.

 3C: We believe that autonomous intelligent systems should be designed in ways that enable their decisions to be explained and humans to be accountable for their use. Audits and certification schemes should monitor compliance of artificial intelligence (AI) systems with engineering and ethical standards, which should be developed using multi-stakeholder and multilateral approaches. Life and death decisions should not be delegated to machines. We call for enhanced digital cooperation with multiple stakeholders to think through the design and application of these standards and principles such as transparency and non-bias in autonomous intelligent systems in different social settings

The report also includes a number of broad structural options for mechanisms to deal with internet issues in the future.  These need some discussion as there is no clear answer here IMHO. But in this context their timeframe recommendation I think is very important - with multiple options, things like this might never be resolved unless there is a fixed timeframe.

5A: We recommend that, as a matter of urgency, the UN SecretaryGeneral facilitate an agile and open consultation process to develop updated mechanisms for global digital cooperation, with the options discussed in Chapter 4 as a starting point. We suggest an initial goal of marking the UN's 75th anniversary in 2020 with a “Global Commitment for Digital Cooperation” to enshrine shared values, principles, understandings and objectives for an improved global digital cooperation architecture...

I think there is potential here for some good actions in a number of areas, and I do hope the sort of global co-operation they envisage, and suggest structural options for, does develop.

Ian Peter

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