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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">What makes you think this is a technical function that can be performed by 1 man?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">My understanding is that it is currently far from a “one-man operation.” Have you analyzed how this function is currently handled, and have you determined
what is unnecessary? I suspect you would be the world’s foremost “time and motion” expert if you could really demonstrate how the current tasks could all be done by 1 man (or woman). More likely, there is a failure to take into account everything that goes
into performing this function. Even the Vignics thought it would take 3 people (one to go to the bathroom and one to work weekends, apparently)….
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I’m still considering Milton’s proposal and my position on it, but regardless of one’s position, it doesn’t help to mis-define and trivialize what takes place
to carry out the IANA function(s).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Greg Shatan<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> discuss-bounces@1net.org [mailto:discuss-bounces@1net.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>James Seng<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, March 04, 2014 10:06 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Milton L Mueller<br>
<b>Cc:</b> discuss@1net.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [discuss] Roadmap for globalizing IANA<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Hi Milton,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">A technical function that can be perform by 1-man would become political if you attached a 12m tag to it.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">So I would hestitate to talk about cost at this moment.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 10:38 PM, Milton L Mueller <<a href="mailto:mueller@syr.edu" target="_blank">mueller@syr.edu</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:#1F497D">Janis</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:#1F497D">We estimate that the combination of annual expenses from ICANN and Verisign for those functions is now about $8-10 million. However, DNSA does not take
over all the IANA functions, so expenses may be less. We proposed an initial $12 million grant from ICANN to get things started and then continued funding of DNSA via self-imposed contributions by the DNSA members. In other words, the registries themselves
pay for the DNS parts of the IANA functions. As the industry generates more than $7 billion in revenue annually, we are talking about 1% or less of their revenue to support the DNSA functions.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:#1F497D">--MM</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b>From:</b> Janis Karklins [mailto:<a href="mailto:karklinsj@gmail.com" target="_blank">karklinsj@gmail.com</a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, March 4, 2014 8:03 AM<o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>To:</b> Milton L Mueller<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>Subject:</b> RE: [discuss] Roadmap for globalizing IANA<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy">Milton,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy">How your proposed DNSA would be funded? Could you elaborate a bit on that?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy">Thank you</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<a href="mailto:discuss-bounces@1net.org" target="_blank">discuss-bounces@1net.org</a> [<a href="mailto:discuss-bounces@1net.org" target="_blank">mailto:discuss-bounces@1net.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Milton L Mueller<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, March 04, 2014 4:44 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Nii Narku Quaynor<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:discuss@1net.org" target="_blank">discuss@1net.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [discuss] Roadmap for globalizing IANA</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:#1F497D">Nii, thanks for your questions. Most of them are actually answered in the paper itself, but I will answer your questions directly.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:#1F497D">></span>Why is removing USG not mean just that? End of contract<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:#1F497D">First, it would be the end of 2 contracts, not one. ICANN and Verisign. You cannot just end the IANA functions contract.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:#1F497D">Second, both contracts contain serious accountability measures. However wrongly conceived the idea of unilateral U.S. oversight is, how do we ensure
that the root zone is managed properly and what is the recourse if the root zone managers are either negligent, incompetent or corrupt? What do you replace the IANA contract with?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:#1F497D">The reason for a DNSA is that registries have the strongest incentive to get root zone management right. It is their data that the root zone contains.
To ensure impartial administration we create a nondiscriminatory right to own DNSA to all registries?
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</span>What problem is being solved by combining functions from other organizations to
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</span>create another entity dnsa? <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:#1F497D">As noted above: 1) accountability problem; 2) incentives problem. To which we can add: not letting ICANN get too powerful.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:#1F497D">></span>The proposed Dnsa is potentially a consortium of 1000+ registries and how would this work.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:#1F497D">Not that many companies involved. More like a few hundred; lots of companies have multiple TLDs. Ownership shares might be based on some metric of size,
such as names under registration, etc. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:#1F497D">How does GNSO work? How does ccNSO work? How did Intelsat work? (consortium of ~200 national telecom operators). How did Nominet work? (shared ownership
by many registrars) How does IEEE work? (hundreds of thousands of members). </span>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:#1F497D">></span>Is this different from creating another ICANN <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:#1F497D">Very different. ICANN is for making policy. It involves representation of diverse stakeholders and a complicated process for developing consensus on
policy and approval by the board. DNSA is for operations. Most people I have talked to agree that we need to keep those things separate. So, we separate them</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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