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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Hi Milton,<br>
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On 3/10/14, 8:23 PM, Milton L Mueller wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Constance<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">As
one of ISOC’s policy staff, I would like to know your
reaction to the European Commission submission to
NetMundial, specifically those portions of the comments that
call for forms of oversight to make IETF standards
conformant to public policy concerns.</span><br>
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I'm not Constance, but I know something about the situation. There
has been a healthy dialog with someone from the Commission on the
internetgovtech list (anyone can join). Government participants
at RIPE, for instance, have the roundtable, something that IETF
leadership participates in from time to time. At ICANN they have
the GAC. There are a number of governments that participate in
various IETF working groups (PAWS being a current example that is
about to produce a standard on a database for provisioning of
available white space). In addition, ISOC has a "policy fellows"
program, that I have personally found quite enjoyable. But perhaps
that is not as structured as one might want.<br>
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The IAB talked about doing a roundtable so that governments have an
opportunity to hear what is going on and to have at least a little
guidance as to how to get engaged. One challenge is finding the
people who would be interested in a given topic or group of topics.
The IETF is not the same as an RIR in this regard. With an RIR, the
issues tend to revolve around (shockingly) addressing and whois, and
so one might at least envision the participants and their briefs not
changing all that much. I think this largely holds true for the GAC
as well.<br>
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On the other hand, as standardization topics change, so too do the
participants. The same people who are interested in white space are
generally not interested in, say, broadband access point measurement
(e.g., the lmap wg), and so there is both a lack of continuity.
Outreach can also be challenging. <br>
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Since you asked the question, tho, turnabout is fair play ;-) I'd
be curious of your thoughts about this.<br>
<br>
Eliot<br>
<speaking only for myself><br>
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