<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra">Hello Parminder,<br><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 9:37 AM, parminder <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:parminder@itforchange.net" target="_blank">parminder@itforchange.net</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<p style="margin-bottom:0cm">While we are on this subject, it may
be
useful for the 1Net to recognise that many actors do not think the
'
ICANN/IANA issue' should be the main concern of NetMundial....
Reading the minutes of the recent High Level Committee meeting for
NetMundial, I see France say this clearly, and ICANN rep agree to
it.
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<p style="margin-bottom:0cm">Now, even if we are to take that
ICANN/IANA will only be half of the story at NetMundial, should we
do
some discussion on the other half as well? Beginning perhaps with
recognizing what this other half is. </p>
<p style="margin-bottom:0cm">I take it to the broader public policy
issues related to the Internet which are either inherently global,
like general jurisdictional disputes and global mass surveillance,
or
have very significant global implications, for instance, net
neutrality and economic of personal data. </p></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I so much agree with you on this. The Br event definitely is not initially only about ICANN/IANA stuff(even the montevideo statement was not inspired from ICANN/IANA happenings only). I think some of the submissions to the event has indicated that its not just going to be a ICANN only issues event. I guess we will look forward to the event program which will ofcourse determine to some extent what to expect from the meeting. <br>
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<p style="margin-bottom:0cm">What kind of global Internet
governance
mechanisms are required to address these pressing global issues?</p>
<p style="margin-bottom:0cm">I certainly take the need for urgent
addressing of these issues to be of much greater important than
the
ICANN/IANA issue. Also, remember that President Rousseff's UN
Speech
which precipitated matter and set us on the road to Sao Paolo had
nothing to do with the ICANN/IANA issue and everything to do with
these other issues.</p></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>You are right about this, personally i had a re-think over the ICANN/IANA issue after recent communications on this list(most especially those from Steve which clarifies a lot of grey areas with few words ;)) and really wonder if its indeed an issue that require so much resources to fix in the first place.(there is a proverb in my dialect which says: if a body owner is not complaining of pain then why buy him pain relieving drug). The Br event should address global issues and ICANN related issues should just be one of the things on the agenda otherwise it will just be a post ICANN49 event ;)<br>
<br></div><div>Those of us who are not able to attend the event physically will sure keep in step remotely (hoping that remote participation options will be made available).<br><br></div><div>Regards!<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p style="margin-bottom:0cm">Parminder </p></font></span><div><div class="h5">
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<div>On Friday 14 March 2014 01:05 PM,
parminder wrote:<br>
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<div>On Tuesday 11 March 2014 05:33 PM, S
Moonesamy wrote:<br>
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<blockquote type="cite">Hi Parminder, <br>
At 02:29 11-03-2014, <a href="mailto:parminder@itforchange.net" target="_blank">parminder@itforchange.net</a>
wrote: <br>
<blockquote type="cite">The preamble is the same, however the
operative part is different. It <br>
provided a roadmap for institutional reform in global
governance. The <br>
earlier document was about principles for Internet governance.
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Happy to provide any further clarification. <br>
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If one of the aims of the proposal is to help developing
countries, could you please explain how it would help such a
country? <br>
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<p style="margin-bottom:0cm">Dear Moonesamy,<br>
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<p style="margin-bottom:0cm">I am happy to explain...</p>
<p style="margin-bottom:0cm">To understand how the <a href="http://content.netmundial.br/contribution/democratising-global-governance-of-the-internet/164%20" target="_blank">proposal</a>
from Just Net Coalition helps developing countries one needs to
first understand 'what and who' shapes the evolution of the
Internet today, as the Internet itself shapes our larger social
structures, whereby the impact of this 'what and who' goes
rather far and deep...</p>
<p style="margin-bottom:0cm">To keep it brief, it is my
understanding that the following key political and economic
forces shape the Internet today, in the decreasing order of
impact;</p>
<ol>
<li>
<p style="margin-bottom:0cm">Extravagant profit motives of a
few global corporation, almost all US based;</p>
</li>
<li>
<p style="margin-bottom:0cm">The laws and policies of the US,
which are enforced, overtly and subtly, on these global
corporation; and,<br>
</p>
</li>
<li>
<p style="margin-bottom:0cm">Policy framework of some clubs
of rich countries, like the OECD and CoE (for instance,
OCED's principles for Internet policy making).</p>
</li>
</ol>
<p style="margin-bottom:0cm">There is huge nexus between 1 and 2,
which together constitute the most powerful, in fact, quite
overwhelming, force shaping the Internet today. Meanwhile, the
US is largely able to bull-dodge its way with regard to 3 above
as well.� </p>
<p style="margin-bottom:0cm">Apart from the above, Internet
technical standards and critical resource management bodies,
also have a strong impact. These bodies have swung between doing
extremely good work to frequent capture by the above corporate
interests. In my view, their public policy oversight while
important is relatively the lesser problem right now as compared
to other issues listed above. </p>
<p style="margin-bottom:0cm">Now, before we move forward to frame
a response to the basic question you asked, 'how does the Just
Net Coalition's (JNC) <a href="http://content.netmundial.br/contribution/democratising-global-governance-of-the-internet/164%20" target="_blank">proposal</a>
help developing countries', we need to form some level of
agreement on two propositions.</p>
<ol>
<li>
<p style="margin-bottom:0cm">The above is largely the right
picture of the forces that are shaping the Internet today.</p>
</li>
<li>
<p style="margin-bottom:0cm">Things are not going in the
right directions with the evolution of the Internet vis a
vis canons of equity and social justice (for instance, 10
top websites had respectively 25, 50 and 75 percent of the
total page views in the US in 2000, 2005 and 2010, and
things have gone considerably worse since).</p>
</li>
</ol>
If you strongly disagree with either of the above two
propositions, JNC's proposal will make no sense to you. But if you
do agree, there is a lot of ground for us to look at remedial
political solutions. And I am ready to take up such a discussion,
admitting that our proposed solution may only be one among many
possible, and even perhaps not the best one. Our group, in its
collective wisdom, thought that what is needed in the current
context is an counter-magnetic field to the highly dominant forces
today, that would be created by developing an anchor point inside
the UN system which begins to undertake normative discussions on
issues of Internet policies, and where needed comes up with higher
norms and principles (as OECD has come up with), policy
frameworks, and as and when needed, binding conventions and
treaties.As happens with every sector in the UN, it will be much
more about developing higher norms and principles, much fewer
policy frameworks and rather infrequent conventions or
treaties.... <br>
<p style="margin-bottom:0cm">Such a counter magnetic field alone
can even begin balancing the lopsidedness of the current
political and economic model around the Internet, and it goes to
reason that such a balancing will serve the interests of
developing countries, in fact of all marginalized groups
everywhere in the world.I hope you agree. <br>
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<p style="margin-bottom:0cm">Regards</p>
<p style="margin-bottom:0cm">parminder</p>
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Regards, <br>
S. Moonesamy� <br>
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