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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>John, <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>To clarify re: my comments/suggestions below, I take the NTIA’s statement which notably begins “</span><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>To support and enhance the multistakeholder model of Internet policymaking and governance, the NTIA today announces…” as pointing to </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>the broader role that the USG appears to be promoting for MSism in overall “Internet policymaking and governance” and not specifically to the transfer/governance/oversight of the DNS/IANA function.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>M<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> John Curran [mailto:jcurran@istaff.org] <br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, March 15, 2014 2:37 PM<br><br><b>To:</b> michael gurstein<b>Cc:</b> comptoir@cafedu.com; 1Net List<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [discuss] [governance] U.S. to Give Up Oversight of Web Policymaking Body<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>On Mar 15, 2014, at 5:19 PM, michael gurstein <<a href="mailto:gurstein@gmail.com">gurstein@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>As I mentioned before, I think it is unrealistic to expect proposals concerning broad based Internet Governance structures to be pulled holus bolus out of a hat...<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></blockquote><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>Michael -</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Agreed, but I will note however that the question of phasing out NTIA's oversight of the<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> IANA is not necessarily the same question as determining structures for "broad based<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Internet Governance"... much of that depends on what you expect the oversight role<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> to cover: simply IANA tasks (which are administrative/clerical in nature) or the entire<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> registry system, including oversight of policy development, etc.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>I do think however, that realistic places to start are<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> 1. an articulation of goals, norms, values to underlie whatever structures of governance are established e.g.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div style='margin-left:1.25in;orphans: auto;text-align:start;widows: auto;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;word-spacing:0px'><p class=MsoNormal style='text-indent:-.25in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol'>·</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt'> <span class=apple-converted-space> </span></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Does the proposed mechanism have sufficient means to ensure accountability<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div style='margin-left:1.25in;orphans: auto;text-align:start;widows: auto;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;word-spacing:0px'><p class=MsoNormal style='text-indent:-.25in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol'>·</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt'> <span class=apple-converted-space> </span></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Does the proposed mechanism have sufficient means to ensure/enforce transparency<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div style='margin-left:1.25in;orphans: auto;text-align:start;widows: auto;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;word-spacing:0px'><p class=MsoNormal style='text-indent:-.25in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol'>·</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt'> <span class=apple-converted-space> </span></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Is the proposed mechanism inclusive of normative as well as identity based diversity<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div style='margin-left:1.25in;orphans: auto;text-align:start;widows: auto;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;word-spacing:0px'><p class=MsoNormal style='text-indent:-.25in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol'>·</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt'> <span class=apple-converted-space> </span></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Does the proposed mechanism have a foundation in generally accepted rights based norms and practices<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div style='margin-left:1.25in;orphans: auto;text-align:start;widows: auto;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;word-spacing:0px'><p class=MsoNormal style='text-indent:-.25in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol'>·</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt'> <span class=apple-converted-space> </span></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Does the proposed mechanism have a foundation in principles and practices supportive of the public interest and the public good<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div style='margin-left:1.25in;orphans: auto;text-align:start;widows: auto;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;word-spacing:0px'><p class=MsoNormal style='text-indent:-.25in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol'>·</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt'> <span class=apple-converted-space> </span></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Are there means in place to accommodate and enable conflict<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div style='margin-left:.5in;orphans: auto;text-align:start;widows: auto;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;word-spacing:0px'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>2. an identification of risks, threats and procedures for an effective response to e.g.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div style='margin-left:1.25in;orphans: auto;text-align:start;widows: auto;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;word-spacing:0px'><p class=MsoNormal style='text-indent:-.25in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol'>·</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt'> <span class=apple-converted-space> </span></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Are there means in place to identify and resist capture<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div style='margin-left:1.25in;orphans: auto;text-align:start;widows: auto;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;word-spacing:0px'><p class=MsoNormal style='text-indent:-.25in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol'>·</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt'> <span class=apple-converted-space> </span></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Are there means in place to identify and resist subversion<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div style='margin-left:1.25in;orphans: auto;text-align:start;widows: auto;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;word-spacing:0px'><p class=MsoNormal style='text-indent:-.25in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol'>·</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt'> <span class=apple-converted-space> </span></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Are there means to overcome resource imbalance as between participants restricting effective participation<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div style='margin-left:1.25in;orphans: auto;text-align:start;widows: auto;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;word-spacing:0px'><p class=MsoNormal style='text-indent:-.25in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol'>·</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt'> <span class=apple-converted-space> </span></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Are there means available to identify and resist inappropriate frame setting<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div style='margin-left:1.25in;orphans: auto;text-align:start;widows: auto;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;word-spacing:0px'><p class=MsoNormal style='text-indent:-.25in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol'>·</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt'> <span class=apple-converted-space> </span></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Are there means to overcome systematic exclusion<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>And of course these lists are not complete nor without controversy. In fact, a first order of business should be the review of these lists and the development of a process for articulating and validating these elements.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></blockquote><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> Your process above (and initial lists) seem like an excellent suggestion on how<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> to start this process (and hopefully will be considered by those on this list). I do <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> know know what process has been envisioned for development of IANA transition<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> plan (other than the materials accompanying the NTIA release) nor what aspects<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> of Netmundial discussion on Internet governance will touch on these topics...<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>A (preferably critical and independent) analysis of the MS experience with the IETF and ICANN processes would be a useful place to start but recognizing the highly significant differences between decisions made concerning largely technical issues and decisions made concerning largely policy/”political” issues.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> Good question - I am not aware of any such studies with respect to IETF processes; I am <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> sure that folks on this list can suggest several critical analyses of ICANN's MS decisional<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> processes (simply because ICANN tends to get more attention than the IETF in general)<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Thanks!<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>/John<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Disclaimer: My views alone.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></body></html>