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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Optima","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Hi Seun,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Optima","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Optima","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I agree with you: The Internet has an impact in every aspect of our life today…But the IANA function subject to NTIA announcement �is a highly technical function and is critical for the Internet security, stability and resiliency. For me the IETF is the most suitable multi-stakeholder entity to handle the role USG/NTIA has been playing previously. Let’s see how? The IETF has been excising multi-stakeholdrism since many years and is open to everyone (mostly technical people) participation and inputs. The wheel is already invented, Let’s just use it and improve it if necessary. Let’s see how we can re-structure the IETF to make it more inclusive and global…Because the security issue of a protocol or standard can have an impact on an activist’s life elsewhere. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Optima","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Optima","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>One again, like it or not, the Internet governance is mainly technical…We can develop policies or laws but if there is no collaboration between policies makers or law makers, there will no way to enforce it. Everyone has a role to play in the Netgov but someone has to lead it and another one has to protect the rule of law on the cyberspace. Since WSIS, IGF, 1NET, NetMundial and beyond, we are seeking for solutions to those problems. If I’m wrong, feel free to correct me.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Optima","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Optima","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Optima","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Victor.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Optima","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>De :</span></b><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Seun Ojedeji [mailto:seun.ojedeji@gmail.com] <br><b>Envoy� :</b> Sunday, March 16, 2014 12:46 PM<br><b>� :</b> Victor Ndonnang<br><b>Cc :</b> Adiel Akplogan; 1 Net List; Civil Society Internet Governance Caucus - IGC<br><b>Objet :</b> Place to discuss mass surveillance (was Re: [discuss] [governance] NTIA statement)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Hello Victor,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 5:21 PM, Victor Ndonnang <<a href="mailto:ndonnang@nvconsulting.biz" target="_blank">ndonnang@nvconsulting.biz</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>+1 Adiel.<br>Surveillance and intelligence agencies was there before the Internet. Even<br>if the Internet has a role in the mass surveillance...USG/NTIA intent to<br>transfer IANA and root zone management related to the global independent<br>Multistakeholder entity is not a response to the mass surveillance issue.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>++1 <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><p class=MsoNormal>May be that Global Multistakeholder entity will be the IETF or I... to help<br>strengthen security, privacy and trust on the Internet.<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><div><p class=MsoNormal><br>Could you perhaps further explain on what you mean here.... as i think IETF will do its part by attempting to turn discussion from truely multistakeholder platforms into technical implementation through her creation of RFCs by interested individuals/team. (this does not necessarily mean they must, however the hope is that those who are involved in both platforms will be encouraged to do so). So my point is that everybody has a role to play and it does not necessarily lie on one side than the other.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><p class=MsoNormal>The Internet Governance is mainly a technical thing, let's leave the<br>technical community takes care of it with the full participation and inputs<br>of others stakeholders.<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>I beg to disagree on this. Infact if your comment above is the case then perhaps there won't be need for /1Net in the first place, because all what has been discussed on this list are not entirely technical. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Cheers! <o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><p class=MsoNormal>Regards,<br>Victor.<br><br><br><br><br>-----Message d'origine-----<br>De : <a href="mailto:discuss-bounces@1net.org">discuss-bounces@1net.org</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:discuss-bounces@1net.org">discuss-bounces@1net.org</a>] De la part<br>de Adiel Akplogan<br>Envoy� : Sunday, March 16, 2014 8:48 AM<br>� : Seun Ojedeji<br>Cc : 1 Net List; Civil Society Internet Governance Caucus - IGC<br>Objet : Re: [discuss] [governance] NTIA statement<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>I disagree as well. In this discussion it is very important to dissociate<br>the USG/NTIA by role in the performance of IANA function by ICANN and the<br>issue related to mass surveillance. The two are not technically linked and<br>should be addressed separately.<br><br>- a.<br><br>On Mar 16, 2014, at 11:03 AM, Seun Ojedeji <<a href="mailto:seun.ojedeji@gmail.com">seun.ojedeji@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br>> Well I would not disagree that mass surveillance indeed continues.<br>><br>> Any NSA statement that says otherwise?<br>><br>> Cheers!<br>> sent from Google nexus 4<br>> kindly excuse brevity and typos.<br>><br>> On 15 Mar 2014 19:08, "Joly MacFie" <<a href="mailto:joly@punkcast.com">joly@punkcast.com</a>> wrote:<br>> Disagree,<br>><br>> Different department.<br>><br>> j<br>><br>><br>> On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 7:06 AM, Louis Pouzin (well) <<a href="mailto:pouzin@well.com">pouzin@well.com</a>><br>wrote:<br>> Hi,<br>><br>> The IANA ballyhoo comes from the same factory as the "internet freedom"<br>smoke screen launched before WCIT. It's a spin diversion for the show.<br>><br>> Mass surveillance continues. What's new ?<br>><br>> Louis<br>><br>><br>> ____________________________________________________________<br>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list:<br>> <a href="mailto:governance@lists.igcaucus.org">governance@lists.igcaucus.org</a><br>> To be removed from the list, visit:<br>> <a href="http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing" target="_blank">http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing</a><br>><br>> For all other list information and functions, see:<br>> <a href="http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance" target="_blank">http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance</a><br>> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see:<br>> <a href="http://www.igcaucus.org/" target="_blank">http://www.igcaucus.org/</a><br>><br>> Translate this email: <a href="http://translate.google.com/translate_t" target="_blank">http://translate.google.com/translate_t</a><br>><br>><br>><br>><br>> --<br>> ---------------------------------------------------------------<br>> Joly MacFie 218 565 9365 Skype:punkcast WWWhatsup NYC -<br>> <a href="http://wwwhatsup.com" target="_blank">http://wwwhatsup.com</a> <a href="http://pinstand.com" target="_blank">http://pinstand.com</a> - <a href="http://punkcast.com" target="_blank">http://punkcast.com</a> VP<br>> (Admin) - ISOC-NY - <a href="http://isoc-ny.org" target="_blank">http://isoc-ny.org</a><br>> --------------------------------------------------------------<br>> -<br>><br>> _______________________________________________<br>> discuss mailing list<br>> <a href="mailto:discuss@1net.org">discuss@1net.org</a><br>> <a href="http://1net-mail.1net.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss" target="_blank">http://1net-mail.1net.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss</a><br>> _______________________________________________<br>> discuss mailing list<br>> <a href="mailto:discuss@1net.org">discuss@1net.org</a><br>> <a href="http://1net-mail.1net.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss" target="_blank">http://1net-mail.1net.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss</a><br><br><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br clear=all><br>-- <br>------------------------------------------------------------------------<span style='color:#888888'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-family:"Garamond","serif";color:#006600'>Seun Ojedeji,<br>Federal University Oye-Ekiti<br>web: </span></i><i><span style='font-family:"Garamond","serif";color:#888888'><a href="http://www.fuoye.edu.ng" target="_blank">http://www.fuoye.edu.ng</a><br></span></i><i><span style='font-family:"Garamond","serif";color:#006600'>Mobile: +2348035233535</span></i><i><span style='font-family:"Garamond","serif";color:#888888'><br></span></i><i><span style='font-family:"Garamond","serif";color:#006600'>alt email:<a href="http://goog_1872880453" target="_blank"> </a><a href="mailto:seun.ojedeji@fuoye.edu.ng" target="_blank">seun.ojedeji@fuoye.edu.ng</a></span></i><span style='font-family:"Garamond","serif";color:#888888'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></div></body></html>