<div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 9:12 AM, Michel Gauthier <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mg@telepresse.com" target="_blank">mg@telepresse.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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At 02:45 22/03/2014, McTim wrote:<br>
<blockquote type="cite">If you are trying to make an
argument by quoting rfc3869 and then quoting a page from the ISOC website
I think you will have to do better than that, as one is related to
research and the Comcast partnership is about IETF meetings and other
activities.� ISOC itself doesn't do research in the way that
DNS-OARC or CAIDA or others do it.� ISOC does surveys mainly and
recently economic effects of IXPs, etc.<br><br>
If you would prefer public funding for IETF activities, then please state
that, otherwise, one can't tell what your argument is all
about.</blockquote><br></div>
I only do my collection, analysis and reporting job after sorting real,
tricky, naive and noisy inputs, on this and other equivalent lists or
fora where real infuencing strategies are observable. <br></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>So far, you are not even speculating that there is an 'influencing strategy", you are merely posting random factoids seemingly in support of the other MGs snide insinuations.</div>
<div><br></div><div>�</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><br>
To my knowledge DNS-OARC is a private club </div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>This has nothing to do with what I pointed out about them, that they do research of the kind that you suggested that the IETF does.</div>
<div><br></div><div>�</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div>of which the interest in users
support is characterized by its
<a href="https://www.dns-oarc.net/oarc/services/dnsentropy" target="_blank">
https://www.dns-oarc.net/oarc/services/dnsentropy</a> page which states:
"On August 7, 2008,
<a href="http://www.ioactive.com/kaminsky.html" target="_blank">Dan Kaminsky</a> will
release additional details about these poisoning attacks. "<br></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>another tangental red-herring.</div><div>�</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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CAIDA membership is beyond financial access to FLOSS IUsers and
corporations interested in their market, what is my focussed area.
<br></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>This doesn't mask the fact that they do research on 'future Internet issues"</div><div><br></div><div>My question to you still stands.</div><div><br>
</div><div><br></div><div>How would you like the IETF to be funded??</div><div><br></div><div>rgds,</div><div><br></div><div>McTim</div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div></div></div>