<div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 9:12 AM, Michel Gauthier <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mg@telepresse.com" target="_blank">mg@telepresse.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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At 02:45 22/03/2014, McTim wrote:<br>
<blockquote type="cite">If you are trying to make an
argument by quoting rfc3869 and then quoting a page from the ISOC website
I think you will have to do better than that, as one is related to
research and the Comcast partnership is about IETF meetings and other
activities. ISOC itself doesn't do research in the way that
DNS-OARC or CAIDA or others do it. ISOC does surveys mainly and
recently economic effects of IXPs, etc.<br><br>
If you would prefer public funding for IETF activities, then please state
that, otherwise, one can't tell what your argument is all
about.</blockquote><br></div>
I only do my collection, analysis and reporting job after sorting real,
tricky, naive and noisy inputs, on this and other equivalent lists or
fora where real infuencing strategies are observable. <br></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>So far, you are not even speculating that there is an 'influencing strategy", you are merely posting random factoids seemingly in support of the other MGs snide insinuations.</div>
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To my knowledge DNS-OARC is a private club </div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>This has nothing to do with what I pointed out about them, that they do research of the kind that you suggested that the IETF does.</div>
<div><br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div>of which the interest in users
support is characterized by its
<a href="https://www.dns-oarc.net/oarc/services/dnsentropy" target="_blank">
https://www.dns-oarc.net/oarc/services/dnsentropy</a> page which states:
"On August 7, 2008,
<a href="http://www.ioactive.com/kaminsky.html" target="_blank">Dan Kaminsky</a> will
release additional details about these poisoning attacks. "<br></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>another tangental red-herring.</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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CAIDA membership is beyond financial access to FLOSS IUsers and
corporations interested in their market, what is my focussed area.
<br></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>This doesn't mask the fact that they do research on 'future Internet issues"</div><div><br></div><div>My question to you still stands.</div><div><br>
</div><div><br></div><div>How would you like the IETF to be funded??</div><div><br></div><div>rgds,</div><div><br></div><div>McTim</div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div></div></div>