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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On Sunday 23 March 2014 12:22 PM, John
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On Mar 23, 2014, at 1:47 PM, parminder <<a
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inline !important;">No, not normal. especially if a
particular standards body (1) makes decisions that are very
crucial to public interest, and (2) have no 'public'
oversight mechanism which itself could be ensured to be
fully independent of private funding..... And IETF qualifies
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<div>Parminder - </div>
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<div> Could you elaborate on the first point? I'm at a loss
how the IETF makes</div>
<div> public policy decisions,</div>
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I said IETF makes decisions that are very crucial to public
interest. Are you denying this fact. (I never said it made public
policy decisions). <br>
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<div>except in the rare cases where there is a protocol</div>
<div> tradeoff which effectively embeds a particular public
policy norm into its </div>
<div> operation (and these are quite rare)</div>
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The opposite is true. It is a relatively rare technical decision
that does not incorporate a public policy norm. <br>
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<div> For example, the IETF folks (collectively) recognize
that there is a norm</div>
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being used in protocols,</div>
<div> and hence makes efforts to include an encryption option
for those who </div>
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<div> Given that the IETF protocols are voluntarily used,
could explain how</div>
<div> "crucial to public interest" decisions happen? </div>
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I dont see how they are *not* crucial to public interest - and what
has the somewhat fictional volutariness of IETF protocols to do with
this fact.<br>
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<div> Aren't governments </div>
<div> supposed to engage in laws/rulemaking when there are
issues that</div>
<div> are crucial to public interest?</div>
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Yes, they are. Although many issues of crucial public interest but
of relatively technical or managerial nature can get delegated, but
with effective political oversight.<br>
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Regards<br>
parminder <br>
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<div>Thanks!</div>
<div>/John</div>
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