<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=iso-8859-1"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;">Dear Nathalie,<div><br></div><div>Thanks for your thoughts - I would propose one amendment though. Spam IS content - and dealing with spam in the various MS fora where it has been the focus of work for several years is a notable success in the security field (I will let those better versed in the field respond in more depth).</div><div><br></div><div>I would certainly say that robustness and net neutrality are 'transport platform' issues in the largest sense and therefore 'In scope' if you take my definition as a lens through which to view subjects.<br>
<br><div><div>On 29 Mar 2014, at 22:07, nathalie coupet <<a href="mailto:nathaliecoupet@yahoo.com">nathaliecoupet@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"><div><span>Hi All,</span></div><div></div><div> </div><div>Applying Nick's definition, I believe the topics of spam, robustness of the Internet and network neutrality would fall under the categories covered by (non-Global) IG. Shouldn't we talk about that?</div><div><br></div><div>Could you please define the current situation with regards to these three subjects, the status of the work done in other fora (W3C for spam, perpass initiative update for robustness at the IETF,...). </div><div><br></div><div>What other perspective could we bring to the discussions occurring elsewhere? </div><div><br></div><div> </div><div>Nathalie</div><div><br></div> <div style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times,
serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <hr size="1"> <font size="2" face="Arial"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Nick Ashton-Hart <<a href="mailto:nashton@ccianet.org">nashton@ccianet.org</a>><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> "<a href="mailto:discuss@1net.org">discuss@1net.org</a> List" <<a href="mailto:discuss@1net.org">discuss@1net.org</a>> <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Saturday, March 29, 2014 1:38 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> [discuss] CircleID post: a way forward on what "Internet Governance" is, and is not<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container"><br><div id="yiv4275918690">Dear all,<div><br></div><div>In case it is of interest, there's a CircleID post from me on why we need to have more clarity on what is, and is not, within the scope of "Internet Governance." I propose a way to resolve the vagueness that has bedeviled this term for 10 years built around the concept that the data that is carried by the Internet and the
network that carries that data are separate things, and that data should not be a part of "Internet Governance" because it is dealt with in many other venues.</div><div><br></div><div>I hope it is of interest. It is on the front page at the moment but the direct link is <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.circleid.com/posts/20140328_internet_governance_what_does_it_mean_anyway/">http://www.circleid.com/posts/20140328_internet_governance_what_does_it_mean_anyway/</a>. <br><div>
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