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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>John,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Inline<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> John Curran [mailto:jcurran@istaff.org] <br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, April 04, 2014 9:21 AM<br><b>To:</b> michael gurstein<br><b>Cc:</b> Alejandro Pisanty; discuss@1net.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [discuss] Current drive<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><i><span style='color:#1F497D'>[MG>] </span></i></b><span style='color:#1F497D'><lots of really important interesting stuff from me snipped </span><span style='font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D'>J</span><span style='color:#1F497D'> ><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>Michael - <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> We have a dynamic successful Internet precisely because it evolved far faster (and<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> external to) the telephony regulatory environment...<span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>[MG>] probably true but I don’t see that history is destiny… here or elsewhere… At some point in various places it was decided that one unified, generally accessible system of public transport managed in the interest of the overall community was preferable to an anarchic system of private transport services which had grown up over time in response to demand and rapidly growing urban areas.<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></i></b></p><p class=MsoNormal> It is fairly difficult to regulate <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> something without first defining it, and once defined by governmental bodies, the <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> definitions tend to change only at glacial pace.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>[MG>] this seems to me to be a challenge for very smart technical people to work out and then to inform the rather more ponderous public policy folks as to the solution that they have come up with…</span></i></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> You assert that the way the Internet is to be managed (or more accurately, to <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> be regulated) has some bearing on the principles of how Internet identifiers <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> are administered, and yet that is completely unproved and likely false. There<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> is no need for political overtones regarding Internet usage philosophy to be<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> introduced to the Internet identifier management, any more than it is necessary<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> to require that users access the Internet via systems designed "in the public<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> interest" or assembled with screws that were specified "in the public interest"<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>[MG>] I have asserted no such thing. You have indicated that the administration of “Internet identifiers” is being done so as to advance private interests rather than the public interest… I’m not sufficiently familiar with that area to make any assertions one way or the other (I believe that Parminder has given a useful list of examples where the public interest and private interests have diverged in these matters and I don’t recall any overwhelming arguments against the applicability of these… my own argument was at a more general level… however, I did precisely exclude issues concerning how users would access the Internet in my overall discussion… (viz. it doesn’t matter how/or by what device folks access a dial-tone as long as a dial-tone is reliably accessible</span></i></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> If you wish the use of the Internet to be governed based on "public interest", then <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> have governments legislate user and service provider behavior appropriately.<span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>[MG>] this doesn’t follow at all from what I have said<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></i></b></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> It does not require any unique relationship with the Internet identifier system, just <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> as regulation of consumer credit usage does not require direct control over the<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> registries of credit card numbers.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>[MG>] see above<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></i></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>M</span></i></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>FYI,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>/John<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Disclaimer: My views alone.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></body></html>