<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=windows-1252"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;">On Apr 4, 2014, at 11:44 AM, michael gurstein <<a href="mailto:gurstein@gmail.com">gurstein@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1;"><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Analogies of course are dangerous � but I�m not sure that I see how what you are suggesting follows� to extend my public transit analogy, how or what folks wear to get on and off the bus doesn�t really matter and if they choose to have special shoes for bus riding so be it (but of course, a well ordered public transit system would make appropriate accommodation for the handicapped, seniors, mothers with young children etc. and would likely influence the design of buses through mass ordering but I can�t see how this would affect the design of automobiles or bicycles for that matter�<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">For a very long time in many (most) parts of the world having access to a dial tone was either provided as a public utility or as a highly regulated monopoly� I�m not sure that I see the difference between having an �always on� Internet access and being able to pick up the telephone and have a dial-tone (and yes I know all the arguments against PTT�s etc. but I would suggest that those arguments were about a different time and different technology with much different implications and impacts� --<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">How the dial tone was provided was a �black box� for most people provided by the good folks with slide rules and pocket protectors� I see no reason why something similar couldn�t happen with the Internet. How the Internet is used whether for spam or for surveillance etc. is of course something that needs to be addressed but somewhat analogous issues were present in those days as well and there were mechanisms in place to respond�</span></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div>Michael - </div><div> </div><div> We have a dynamic successful Internet precisely because it evolved far faster (and</div><div> external to) the telephony regulatory environment... It is fairly difficult to regulate </div><div> something without first defining it, and once defined by governmental bodies, the </div><div> definitions tend to change only at glacial pace.</div><div><br></div><div> You assert that the way the Internet is to be managed (or more accurately, to </div><div> be regulated) has some bearing on the principles of how Internet identifiers </div><div> are administered, and yet that is completely unproved and likely false. There</div><div> is no need for political overtones regarding Internet usage philosophy to be</div><div> introduced to the Internet identifier management, any more than it is necessary</div><div> to require that users access the Internet via systems designed "in the public</div><div> interest" or assembled with screws that were specified "in the public interest"</div><div><br></div><div> If you wish the use of the Internet to be governed based on "public interest", then </div><div> have governments legislate user and service provider behavior appropriately. It </div><div> does not require any unique relationship with the Internet identifier system, just </div><div> as regulation of consumer credit usage does not require direct control over the</div><div> registries of credit card numbers.</div><div><br></div><div>FYI,</div><div>/John</div><div><br></div><div>Disclaimer: My views alone.</div><div><br></div></body></html>