<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=windows-1252"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;"><div>Milton - you were in Singapore and I was not. A first hand account is superior to a second hand account, but I was relying in my comments on the K. McCarthy summary on Circle ID, where he says:</div><div><br></div><div>---------------</div><div><br></div><div><div style="margin: 0px; font-family: Arial; font-size: 19px;">Both Strickling and Alexander repeatedly used the word "clerical" to describe the role that the US</div><div style="margin: 0px; font-family: Arial; font-size: 19px;">government plays in the IANA contract.</div><div style="margin: 0px; font-family: Arial; color: rgb(121, 121, 121); font-size: 19px;"><br></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-family: Arial; font-size: 19px;">"Our role today is fairly clerical," said Strickling. Alexander reiterated the message: "What's on the table</div><div style="margin: 0px; font-family: Arial; font-size: 19px;">is the US government's role. That role is clerically administering the contract.�</div></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-family: Arial; font-size: 19px;"><br></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-family: Arial; font-size: 19px;">--------------------</div><div style="margin: 0px;"><br></div><div style="margin: 0px;"><span style="font-size: 19px;">Obviously, there is room for interpretation as to whether removing �clerically administering the contract� affects the operational role of IANA. I think mostly not.</span></div><div style="margin: 0px;"><span style="font-size: 19px;"><br></span></div><div style="margin: 0px;"><span style="font-size: 19px;">Sorry for the confusion.</span></div><div style="margin: 0px;"><span style="font-size: 19px;"><br></span></div><div style="margin: 0px;"><span style="font-size: 19px;">- Mike</span></div><div><br></div><br><div><div>On Apr 12, 2014, at 6:54 PM, Milton L Mueller <<a href="mailto:mueller@SYR.EDU">mueller@SYR.EDU</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple" style="font-family: TimesNewRomanPSMT; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1;"><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><a name="_MailEndCompose"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></a></div><div><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-color: rgb(225, 225, 225); border-top-width: 1pt; padding: 3pt 0in 0in;"><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:discuss-bounces@1net.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">discuss-bounces@1net.org</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[<a href="mailto:discuss-bounces@1net.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">mailto:discuss-bounces@1net.org</a>]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Mike Roberts<br><b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Saturday, April 12, 2014 2:50 PM<br><br></span><o:p></o:p></div></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>Neither NTIA nor anyone with any responsibility within the operational side<span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>of Internet infrastructure<span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span>has suggested that there be a change to the<span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">> o</span>perational status of IANA. Indeed, there have been<span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>strong statements that, for a number of important reasons, including stability<span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>of the DNS, it should not be changed. <span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Depends on what you mean by �the operational status of IANA.� If you mean there is no consideration of structural separation of IANA from ICANN�s policy making process by people with operational responsibility, you are completely wrong. Verisign, for example, has stated that it favors separation and opposes moving its current functions into ICANN. If you mean simply that IANA should remain operational during and after the transition, sure. But who or what is IANA remains open.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">There was, and is, plenty of discussion whether ICANN or someone else should take over the role now performed by Verisign, or whether those roles should be parsed and bundled in different ways. If this means a change in �operational status,� then everyone is discussing IANA�s operational status. Indeed, as David Conrad said, one cannot avoid changing the operational status of the DNS root, because removing NTIA from the loop is a change in operational status.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>Larry Strickling�s statements in<span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>Singapore were certainly clear on the matter. <o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">This is not true. I was in Singapore, I do not recall seeing you there. I had a direct conversation with Strickling in which he showed me the IGP paper and said �nothing in the NTIA instructions prevents this from happening is it has community support.� I listened to his speech at the end of the NCUC conference and he did not say what you attribute to him. I listened to his discussion at the GAC and he did not say what you attribute to him. I watched his testimony before Congress and he did not say that there would be no change in the</span></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br></body></html>