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<div>Avri,</div><div><br></div><div>I would like to comment on your “…it is time to IGF MAG to through off its self imposed limitations ….”</div><div>Agreeing that IGF needs to find a way to demonstrate more tangible outcome of its work, I doubt that NetMundial experience will be applied in 2014/2015 editions. There are several reasons for that:</div><ul style="padding-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; list-style-type: disc;"><li style='color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: "Color Emoji", "Calibri", "Segoe UI", "Meiryo", "Microsoft YaHei UI", "Microsoft JhengHei UI", "Malgun Gothic", "sans-serif"; font-size: 16px;'><div>NetMundial was focused on 2 issues - IGF is broad ranging discussion</div></li><li style='color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: "Color Emoji", "Calibri", "Segoe UI", "Meiryo", "Microsoft YaHei UI", "Microsoft JhengHei UI", "Malgun Gothic", "sans-serif"; font-size: 16px;'><div>Purpose/aim of both meetings were different</div></li><li style='color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: "Color Emoji", "Calibri", "Segoe UI", "Meiryo", "Microsoft YaHei UI", "Microsoft JhengHei UI", "Malgun Gothic", "sans-serif"; font-size: 16px;'><div>Drafting of the Final statement started well in advance of NetMundial</div></li><li style='color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: "Color Emoji", "Calibri", "Segoe UI", "Meiryo", "Microsoft YaHei UI", "Microsoft JhengHei UI", "Malgun Gothic", "sans-serif"; font-size: 16px;'><div>NetMundial had far more resources in terms of Secretarial support (HL Committee, Bureau)</div></li></ul><div><br></div><div>That said, I hope that IGF will be able to demonstrate that things happen as a result of IGF elsewhere. You know that I launched a call for a voluntary information submission:<br></div><div data-signatureblock="true"><div><br></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt; text-align: justify;"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt;"><font color="#000000"><font face="Times New Roman"><em>The Internet Governance
Forum was created by the World Summit on the Information Society as a
multistakeholder discussion platform on Internet governance related issues. The
goals of the IGF are to provide a platform for information exchange, identify emerging
challenges and possible solutions to addressing them, provide capacity
building, identify and disseminate best practices and forge partnerships for
concrete actions.</em></font></font></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt; text-align: justify;"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt;"><font color="#000000"><font face="Times New Roman"><em>Over the past few years,
some sceptics of the IGF have suggested that no actions have been taken and
that no decisions are made at the IGF - that it is just a “talk shop”.</em></font></font></span></p><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt;"><font face="Times New Roman Italic"></font></span><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt; text-align: justify;"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt;"><font color="#000000"><font face="Times New Roman"><em>In order to dissipate
those doubts about the “action orientation” of the IGF it would be useful to
collect data about concrete actions and decisions that have been taken by
different stakeholders as a result of the engagement and discussions of
Internet related <span>issues at the
various IGFs (international, regional or national).</span></em></font></font></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt; text-align: justify;"><font face="Times New Roman"><em><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt;">In this respect, I would like to invite all of those
organizations and institutions that would be willing to share information, <b>on
a voluntary basis</b>, about concrete decisions or actions that have been taken
as a result of engagement during the current mandate of the IGF the 2011, 2012
and 2013 IGFs to do so by sending brief information to the </span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt;"><font color="#000000">IGF Secretariat
(</font></span></em></font><span lang="EN-AU" style="font-size: 12pt;"><a href="mailto:discussion_questions@intgovforum.org" target="_parent"><u><font color="#0000ff" face="Times New Roman"><em>discussion_questions@</em></font><font color="#0000ff" face="Times New Roman"><em>intgovforum.org</em></font></u></a></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt;"><font color="#000000"><font face="Times New Roman"><em>) by
30 June 2014. The Secretariat will compile all information received and will
present a synthesized report at the Istanbul IGF.</em></font></font></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt; text-align: justify;"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt;"><font color="#000000"><font face="Times New Roman"><em>Thank you for your
participation</em></font></font></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt; text-align: justify;"><br></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt; text-align: justify;"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt;"><font color="#000000"><font face="Times New Roman"><em>Janis Karklins</em></font></font></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt; text-align: justify;"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt;"><font color="#000000"><font face="Times New Roman"><em>Interim Chair of the MAG</em></font></font></span></p><br></div><div>The IGF Secretariat will compile all submissions and I intend present them at the opening of Istanbul IGF meeting. I hope that report will dissipate, at least partially, perception that IGF is merely a talk-shop.</div><div>With greetings from sunny and warm Riga</div><div>JK<br></div><div><br></div><div>Sent from Surface</div><div><br></div></div><div style="padding-top: 5px; border-top-color: rgb(229, 229, 229); border-top-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid;"><div><font face=" 'Calibri', 'Segoe UI', 'Meiryo', 'Microsoft YaHei UI', 'Microsoft JhengHei UI', 'Malgun Gothic', 'sans-serif'" style='line-height: 15pt; letter-spacing: 0.02em; font-family: "Calibri", "Segoe UI", "Meiryo", "Microsoft YaHei UI", "Microsoft JhengHei UI", "Malgun Gothic", "sans-serif"; font-size: 12pt;'><b>From:</b> <a href="mailto:avri@acm.org" target="_parent">Avri Doria</a><br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, April 26, 2014 10:59 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:discuss@1net.org" target="_parent">discuss@1net.org</a>, <a href="mailto:internetpolicy@elists.isoc.org" target="_parent">internetpolicy@elists.isoc.org</a></font></div></div><div><br></div><div dir=""><div id="readingPaneBodyContent">Hi,<br><br>And beyond exegesis and spin on the document we should try to import<br>some of those techniques into the IGF so that it can also learn how to<br>produce some outcomes, e.g. inputs from IGF to other Ig organizations.<br><br>Following the lead of NetMundial, it is time for the IGF MAG to throw<br>off its self imposed limitation of being merely a program committee so<br>it can make recommendations to the UNSG on how to turn the IGF into an<br>organization that can actually produce results. While it is true that<br>the IGF has achieved a little just by existing, at this point if it<br>wants to remain viable it needs to move beyond its infancy and become a<br>useful organization.<br><br>In addition to some of the important work done by NetMundial in bridging<br>the gap between the Internet and Human Rights and opening the door to<br>discussions on revising the government defined roles and<br>responsibilities of the actors in the Internet ecosystem from 2003, it<br>has shown us that it is possible for a multistakeholder organization to<br>produce outcomes. It is now time for the IGF to figure out how to do<br>the same.<br><br>Additionally, the NetMundial has sent some tasks the IGF's way. I look<br>forward to work on such issues as Net Neutrality at IGF2014.<br><br>The mission of the IGF has been given a real push by NetMundial, I hope<br>we don't waste the opportunity.<br><br>avri<br><br><br>On 26-Apr-14 16:36, John Curran wrote:<br>> On Apr 25, 2014, at 9:58 PM, Marilyn Cade <marilynscade@hotmail.com<br>> <mailto:marilynscade@hotmail.com>> wrote:<br>> <br>>> I think the opportunity ahead is how to further examine what the<br>>> "statement of Sao Paolo" says and how to continue work, especially at<br>>> IGF, but not only there. <br>> <br>> Indeed.<br>> /John<br>> <br>> Disclaimer: My views alone.<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> _______________________________________________<br>> discuss mailing list<br>> discuss@1net.org<br>> http://1net-mail.1net.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss<br>> <br><br>_______________________________________________<br>discuss mailing list<br>discuss@1net.org<br>http://1net-mail.1net.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss<br></div></div>
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