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12pt;font-family: Optima;">There is a big ocean out there that can't be
boiled. <br><br>Tim Berners-Lee's magna carta idea is an attempt to set
out agreed top level principles to frame how those interventions within
and between Governments on matters related to privacy and security over
digital networks are handled. That is a big idea.<br><br>The top level
of IG debate is being bogged down by a lack of such understanding and
the failure to separate national security interests from the management
of network resources. There is a long history and deeply embedded
institutional frameworks that have tied these two tightly together and
it is going to take a huge shift in culture, based on new confidence in
making significant operational changes to evolve political expectations.
<br><br>The devolution of the IANA function is a victim of this. The
question is can it be separated from the broader governmental discussion
by demarcating clearly the limit to its scope and scale whilst
establishing a form of API to support open interaction with all
stakeholders including with those at ICANN, and new developments in
global multi-lateral governance and debates at IGF and other places? <br><br>The
issue here is that we may not need new institutions but we do need new
institutional thinking in almost all the existing ones. That suggests a
long period of transition ahead where the balances between stakeholders
will be fluid. <br><br> <br><br>Christian<br><br><span
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charset=UTF-8" http-equiv="Content-Type">Dear Avri,<div><br></div><div>As
someone who had the 'privilege' of sitting through big parts of CSTD
(and all of NetMundial), I see a lot of truth in what you have said. </div><div><br></div><div>What
is not there - and this is not a criticism; I don't think you were
looking to address it - is the scale of the problem we are facing.</div><div><br></div><div>Simply
put: a number of countries that previously fought for a states-based IG
paradigm would accept a compromise. Post-Snowden, that is largely
untrue: success in any multistakeholder venue is now to ensure that the <i>process</i>
is a failure.</div><div><br></div><div>This cannot be dealt with inside
of IG because the problem is a symptom of issues elsewhere. I think we
all know what they are - and now the addition of a powerful political
imperative because of surveillance.</div><div><br></div><div>It
shouldn't be this way, but IG is now much more of a hostage to politics
rather than a place where compromise can be found and issues explored
logically; it was bad before but it is now near the point of seizure. If
we don't want the Internet to suffer fundamentally, then we need to
look at the underlying issues and be willing to find ways to deal with
those underlying issues where there is an option.</div><div><br></div><div>I
must stress: IG is not the venue for most of these issues to be solved,
or even discussed in depth. It has no decision-making venues that can
give a solution, and moreover, these other issues are not Internet
issues or Internet governance issues at all, but rather broader social
issues and need the expertise and experience of those venues and
participants who know them.</div><div><br></div><div>In the human rights
council there is a very productive work plan on privacy and rights
online. There is a process beginning at UNESCO, too. There are others;
the work of the ECWG has mapped out quite a few of them. </div><div><br></div><div><b>What
we can do within the IG framework is reach out to these institutions
and those who participate in them and ask how we can help - and as a
concrete proposal, we should ask them all to hold focus sessions at the
IGF to help us all understand their work better. As I will not be in
Paris for the MAG I hope that some of you who are will take this up.<br></b>
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