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<td>Re: [governance] Humans Need Not Apply: The Robots are
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<td>Sat, 16 Aug 2014 11:23:29 +0530</td>
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<td>parminder <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:parminder@itforchange.net"><parminder@itforchange.net></a></td>
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Tom/ All<br>
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<span
style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">A
much bigger problem than of allocating technology provided gains
between work (along with over consumption) and leisure (with
more controlled consumption) is of the allocation between
different groups and classes of people, and between different
geo-regions. It is a completely inexcusable crime of all those
who participate in the management of our societies today that
even with such stupendous technology/ productivity gains, about
13 percent of the world's population still goes to bed hungry,
and more than 30 percent of the children in developing countries
are stunted due to malnourishment (In India, close to 40
percent). Nearly half the world's population lives on less that
2.5 dollars a day. <br>
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<span
style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">"The
world produces enough food to feed everyone...... </span><span
style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">the
principal underlying cause of poverty and hunger is the ordinary
operation of the economic and political systems in the world.
Essentially control over resources and income is based on
military, political and economic power that typically ends up in
the hands of a minority, who live well, while those at the
bottom barely survive, if they do." <a moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="http://www.worldhunger.org/articles/Learn/world%20hunger%20facts%202002.htm">http://www.worldhunger.org/articles/Learn/world%20hunger%20facts%202002.htm</a>
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Meanwhile, wealth disparities are rising globally, at most
places very rapidly. A recent report says that </span>"t<span
style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">he
lower half of the global population possesses barely 1% of
global wealth, while the richest 10% of adults own 86% of all
wealth, and the top 1% account for 46% of the total. " And the
concentration of wealth is worsening almost everywhere.<br>
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Nice time one would say to <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://t.co/xUxOf0AvLl">attempt to move the locus of
global Internet governance to the World Economic Forum</a>,
that Mecca of the 1 percent, where 'they' develop blue prints
for where the world should go from here. We certainly need their
advice and leadership for shaping and governing the global
Internet. Power on the Internet isnt already concentrated
enough! <br>
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One can only congratulate all those involved with the
initiative, and those contributing to it!<br>
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Poor those who have been trying to occupy places that signified
wealth concentration - the occupy movement. It appears that it
is the civil society that is getting occupied in reverse. And it
is running into the trap gleefully, with open arms.<br>
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parminder<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On Saturday 16 August 2014 09:11 AM,
Thomas Lowenhaupt wrote:<br>
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Mike,<br>
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Long ago I thought this problem could be solved by reallocating
resources: The availability of farm machinery has created more
food than we know what to do with; and half of New York seems to
be filled with storage bins filled with the abundance of
manufactured goods. And I thought that people be happy to retire
at 30. <br>
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But assuming an abundance of energy and no environmental
limitations, would I like a 50 year retirement? These days I
seem to live for my work. If some machine takes it away, I'd be
left with a diminished life. <br>
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How important is work to most peoples lives? <br>
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Yes, I agree with the video, and the clock seems to be ticking.<br>
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By posting on the governance list are you suggesting that
Internet governance and "technology management" be combined?<br>
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Tom Lowenhaupt<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 8/15/2014 6:42 PM, michael
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So what do we do?
M
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