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<DIV>It is good to see similar (and strong) reservations expressed widely across
different groups here about the process to date. Certainly many in civil society
share these reservations.</DIV>
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<DIV>I would imagine some of this will clarify during discussions at IGF. But I
think it is entirely reasonable to insist that any future initiative using the
NetMundial name take on board NetMundial principles including inclusiveness and
accountability. I am glad to hear that civil society won’t be a lone isolated
voice in arguing for this!</DIV>
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<DIV>Ian Peter</DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=brown@isoc.org
href="mailto:brown@isoc.org">Kathy Brown</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, August 30, 2014 4:47 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=joseph.alhadeff@oracle.com
href="mailto:joseph.alhadeff@oracle.com">joseph alhadeff</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Cc:</B> <A title=discuss@1net.org
href="mailto:discuss@1net.org">discuss@1net.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [discuss] Internet Governance and the NETmundial
Initiative: A Flawed Attempt at Turning Words into Action</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto">All, I thought I would share with
you my post to colleagues this evening. Thanks for your comments. They have been
quite helpful. Kathy</DIV>
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style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto">To my ISOC Colleagues,</SPAN></P>
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style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto">I am writing as I fly to Istanbul with
much anticipation for a week of important work. I understand that more than 3000
people have registered for the IGF. This past year, as a diverse Internet
community, we have given much thought and energy on how to best "govern"
ourselves. In Istanbul, we will have an opportunity, with our colleagues from
around the world, to, once again, demonstrate the power of collective
collaboration and action. As we know, collaboration is essential to ensure the
future of the Internet. If decisions related to the Internet and its
future are not in the hands of the many, they will only be in the hands of the
few. I will post some further thoughts this weekend on IGF before the
panels, workshops, lunches and dinners begin.</SPAN></P>
<P class=p1
style="BOX-SIZING: border-box; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; PADDING-TOP: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; MARGIN: 0px 0px 1em; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px"><SPAN
style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto">I wanted, however, to take a few moments
before we land to report back on my observations of the WEF event
yesterday.</SPAN></P>
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style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto">I applaud the leadership of the World
Economic Forum for highlighting and recognizing the enormity of the effect of
the Internet on the global economy and the benefits and challenges inherent in
its adoption in much of the world. It is, of course, entirely legitimate that it
seeks to understand and participate in the debate on internet governance. When
given the opportunity to comment during the morning session, I urged that its
thinking about governance include as its central tenet the continuing
investment, innovation and access to the Internet to and for everyone,
particularly for those who do not yet have access and for the "unborn
innovator".</SPAN></P>
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style="BOX-SIZING: border-box; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto">Many of us in and
around the Internet Society--on Staff, on the Board, in our organizational
members and Chapters, in the IETF and the IAB have been deeply committed and
involved in working with our extended communities to address the threats to the
Internet as well as to develop, manage and deploy the ever-evolving technology
of the Internet throughout the world. We revel in inventing the future.
Together, we have adopted a bottom up culture and method of decision making
around numerous, local and global, technical, social and legal issues that arise
in the decentralized, distributed ecosystem which is the Internet.</SPAN></P>
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style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto">We were delighted with the cooperative
spirit in Brazil at Net Mundial as well as our collective ability to reach rough
consensus on the principles that should govern our governing. Olaf Kolkman,
ISOC's new CITO, enthusiastically said, lets tack these principles on the door
and, for all who are ready to embrace them, come on in.</SPAN></P>
<P class=p2
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style="BOX-SIZING: border-box; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto">Many of us are
busy implementing features of the NetMundial roadmap. ISOC has developed
toolkits for spam and IXPs; our regional offices hold INETs throughout the world
to demonstrate and teach technical skills; our Leadership program creates and
administers online courses and sponsors leadership seminars, ambassadorships and
internships; we take active leadership in policy development for governance
issues; and our staff has worked tirelessly to introduce best practices
workshops to the IGF, while our Chapters have actively supported Regional and
National IGFs around the Globe. The Internet Society is a party to the NTIA
Transition Coordinating Committee. Our representatives and Chapters are
intimately involved in the ICANN accountability dialogue. We believe that we are
well along the Internet Governance journey.</SPAN></P>
<P class=p1
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style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto">We welcome any and all people and groups
of good will to work with us and the broader Internet Community in a
multi-stakeholder effort to deepen and broaden this effort. We certainly
invite WEF to get acquainted with our collective work that is serious and
ongoing. I heard some intention to do that.</SPAN></P>
<P class=p1
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style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto">I was disturbed, however, as others have
expressed, with the opaque way the meeting came about; about what seemed to be
established agendas; talk of some new single entity and top down models that
purport to represent organic community processes that could be hobbled by
definitions and artificial role expectations.</SPAN></P>
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style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto">I frankly do not know enough to know
whether my concerns are justified. I look forward to hearing more from WEF, and
perhaps, from the ICANN leadership, this week, about the initiative. I hope,
too, that the folks at WEF who are coming to the IGF soak up the energy,
creativity, work and sweat of the community that will gather this week. A
constructive dialogue and the collaborative spirit of NetMundial may just cause
us to join forces for the good of the Internet and the good of the
world.</SPAN></P>
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style="BOX-SIZING: border-box; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto">So, on to
Istanbul. We have work to do.</SPAN></P>
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<DIV style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto"><BR>On Aug 29, 2014, at 1:22 PM,
"joseph alhadeff" <<A
href="mailto:joseph.alhadeff@oracle.com">joseph.alhadeff@oracle.com</A>>
wrote:<BR><BR></DIV>
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<DIV>Jeremy:<BR><BR>Just to be clear, a number of business
representatives, including ICC-BASIS, have called into question the lack of
transparency, bottom up inclusion and consultation in this process as well as
the need to better clarify how this Initiative adds separate value and is
supportive rather than duplicative of the IGF. Please also note
that placing a number of businesses on a guest list has little to do with
actual inclusion of or consultation with even the business community. We hope
that these issues in creation will not preclude the ability of Net Mundial
Initiative to become something useful to the broader communities and
would strongly urge that the ensuing 6 month consultation period be open to
both procedural and substantive improvements; nothing should be final until
that consultation is completed. While business welcomes the
ability to improve the effectiveness of the IGF (best practices, capturing
discussions, knowledge transfer, capacity building, better addressing
developing country concerns...), we believe, as you note, that the fact that
IGF is not a negotiating form is one of its major virtues. To that end,
we hope that this IGF is able to focus on the work at hand related to its
further improvement and not be overly distracted by the Net Mundial
Initiative.<BR><BR>Joe<BR>
<DIV class=moz-cite-prefix>On 8/29/2014 2:04 AM, Jeremy Malcolm
wrote:<BR></DIV>
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href="https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2014/08/internet-governance-and-netmundial-initiative-flawed-attempt-turning-words-action"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2014/08/internet-governance-and-netmundial-initiative-flawed-attempt-turning-words-action</A></DIV>
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